Terry Denham Posted 8 May , 2009 Share Posted 8 May , 2009 CWGC added the following 'new' WW1 casualties to its Debt of Honour database today – Friday 8th May. Gnr George Cranston BAIRD 74631 Royal Garrison Artillery Died 23.08.18 Age 42 Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK Gnr George DUNCAN 655782 Royal Field Artillery Died 19.08.20 Age 22 Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK Major Gordon Evans GILL Royal Engineers Died 12.03.19 Age 28 Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK Pte John Thomas JACKLIN 77195 Royal Army Medical Corps Died 09.10.19 Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK Lt-Col Alexander Bertram LINDSAY 2nd King Edward’s Own Gurkha Rifles (The Sirmoor Rifles) Died 16.09.14 Age 41 Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK Gnr Fred MARSHALL 251297 Royal Field Artillery Died 10.12.17 Age 32 Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK Pte James NESBITT 148179 Labour Corps Died 20.08.17 Age 29 Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK Pte Frederick ONLEY 276204 6th Bn, Essex Regiment Died 04.01.17 Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK NOT FORGOTTEN The following were cases from the ‘In From The Cold Project’ Major Gill died of influenza and pneumonia in Wembley. (Volunteer – Kevin O’Neill) Pte Jacklin died of heatstroke aboard HMT Brandenburg in the Red Sea. (Volunteer – Steve Morse) Gnr Marshall died of appendicitis and peritonitis in Scotton Military Hospital. (Volunteer – Peter Woodger) Pte Nesbitt died of ‘general paralysis of the insane’ in Winwick. (Volunteer – Kevin O’Neill) Pte Onley died of gunshot wounds to the head and foot in Bristol. (Volunteer – Kevin O’Neill) Gnr Baird was put forward on 18.03.09 on behalf of member, Jim Grant. Gnr Duncan was put forward on 24.03.09 on behalf of member, Jim Grant. Lt-Col Lindsay was put forward on 14.03.09 on behalf of member, Chris Harley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
River97 Posted 8 May , 2009 Share Posted 8 May , 2009 Nice one guy's Rest in peace, gone and no longer forgotten. Cheers Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick ODwyer Posted 8 May , 2009 Share Posted 8 May , 2009 Although very small scale I submitted Serjeant James A Teale, 14th Hussars, for commemoration last year and I am glad to say he was accepted also. He will be commemorated on the Basra Memorial in due course. http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...sualty=75227857 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevem49 Posted 9 May , 2009 Share Posted 9 May , 2009 Never Forgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 9 May , 2009 Share Posted 9 May , 2009 How moving to see Pte. Frederick Onley has now been accepted from Wellingborough. Not sure why he has not been given a CWG headstone though in Wellingborough Cemetery. Grateful thanks to all who made it happen. Never to be forgotten. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 9 May , 2009 Share Posted 9 May , 2009 The Times 21st Sep 1914 The Times 19th Sep 1914 Colonel Lindsay had been appointed as GSO 2 at the War Office June 1913. The cause of his death was heart disease. May They Rest In Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinnethmont Posted 10 May , 2009 Share Posted 10 May , 2009 Name: DUNCAN, GEORGE Initials: G Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Gunner Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery Age: 22 Date of Death: 19/08/1920 Service No: 655782 Additional information: Son of Mrs Jane Duncan, of Springholm, Dalbeatie. N.B.: This casualty has recently been accepted for commemoration by the Commission. However, it will not be possible to add his name to this Memorial immediately. Please contact the Commission before planning a visit, for more information. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: BROOKWOOD (UNITED KINGDOM 1914-1918) MEMORIAL George Duncan enlisted into the 2nd Kirkcubrightshire Battery 2/2 Lowland Field Artillery Brigade (T.F.) at Kirkcudbright on 4th June 1915 and was given the number 4440. He stated he was born at Urr, Kircudbrighshire. His NOK is his mother Jane Duncan, Wholehouse, Springholm, Dalbeatie. He later states he was a farm servant at Barstibly, Castle Douglas on enlisting. He is re-numbered 655782 in 1917 and it appears he went to France in Dec that year. His records show he was admitted to the 1st Australian General Hospital at Rouen on 19 April 1918 with Pulmonary TB ( mild). He was returned to the UK and is recorded as " sick " in Grove Military Hospital, Tooting on 22nd April 1918. His Medical Discharge process began on 1st May. George was discharged " physically unfit " for further service under Kings Regulations on 4th July 1918 with a weekly pension of 27/6d. The reason given as Tubercule of lung due to a/s ( Active Service) ie. TB. On discharge he is in 158th Battary RFA and states he will reside at Woodside, Barnbarrock, Dalbeatie The cause of his death at Dumfries Infirmary on 19th August 1920 aged 22 is given as Tuberculosis of Lung. Tubercular Peritonitis and Tubercular Kidney. His usual Residences is given as Woodside, Colvend. ( I suspect Woodside, Colvend and Woodside, Barnbarrock, Dalbeatie may be the same place) His parents are given as Jane Duncan ( mother) only. Checking births in Kircudbrightshire 1896-1899 gives only one George Duncan ( a twin), he was born at Springholm, Urr, illeg to Jane Duncan, Dairymaid on 10th Dec 1897. Gnr. 665782 George Duncan, 150th Bde R.F.A. MISSING NO MORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinnethmont Posted 10 May , 2009 Share Posted 10 May , 2009 Name: BAIRD, GEORGE CRANSTON Initials: G C Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Gunner Regiment/Service: Royal Garrison Artillery Age: 42 Date of Death: 23/08/1918 Service No: 74631 Additional information: Brother of John Baird of Cambuslang. N.B.: This casualty has recently been accepted for commemoration by the Commission. However, it will not be possible to add his name to this Memorial immediately. Please contact the Commission before planning a visit, for more information. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Memorial: BROOKWOOD (UNITED KINGDOM 1914-1918) MEMORIAL George Baird was born at Crookedstone, Crawford, Lanarkshire on 2nd Feb 1876 the son David and Williamina Baird. His father was a shepherd. It appears he later took Cranston as a middle name. George Baird was Draper residing in Glasgow, possibly with his brother John at Mansefield Ave, Cambuslang who was given as his NOK, when he signed up on 1st Dec 1915 into the Royal Artillery and was mobilised in April 1916 to Great Yarmouth. He was sent to Mesapotamia in Sept 1916 where the origin of his illness began with dysentery in March 1917. He was transferred to the R.A. Depot, Jubbalpore, India in December and admitted to Cumballa Hospital Dec 22 1917 where he was diagnosed as suffering from TB. He was invalided back to England via Maitland , South Africa in January 1918 arriving back in England on 10th May. George attended a Medical Board on 17th July 1918 at Bermondsey Military Hospital where is was accepted his condition was “ attributable to active service during the present war “. He was discharged " unfit for further military service on 9th August 1918. He travelled to Cambuslang and died two weeks later at 8 Mansefield Avenue, Cambuslang, the home of his brother John on 23rd August aged 42. His total service with the Colours was 2 years, 250 days. Gnr. 74631 George Cranston Baird, R.G.A. MISSING NO MORE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will O'Brien Posted 10 May , 2009 Share Posted 10 May , 2009 Raising a glass to the memory of George Baird, George Duncan, Gordon, John, Alexander, Fred, James & Frederick. Raising another to the efforts of Kev, Steve, Peter, Jim & Chris. James Nesbitt's cause of death is an interesting one. Has anyone got a 'modern' diagnosis for what was termed 'general paraylsis of the insane' Also interested as to why John Jacklin is to be commemorated on the Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial. If he died whilst aboard ship in the Red Sea, wouldn't a memorial in Africa or on the Arabian peninsula be more appropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 10 May , 2009 Author Share Posted 10 May , 2009 Will Brookwood (UK 14-18) is increasingly being used for men who died overseas where the exact location is not known or no appropriate memorial is available. It is also being used when army men died at sea in circumstances that would not warrant addition to one of the larger memorials that bear such died-at-sea names (eg Helles). Also, several of the smaller memorials are regarded as 'closed' where no new additions are possible for various reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 10 May , 2009 Share Posted 10 May , 2009 Hi All Terry could you explain something for me please, if possible, or the person who put Pte.Frederick Onley name forward. I have him dying on 4.1.1918 from his gravestone yet it says 1917 on the CWGC. Is the same person I asked about quite a while ago from Wellingborough, Northants. T.I.A. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 10 May , 2009 Author Share Posted 10 May , 2009 Sandy It is a typo. It will be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 10 May , 2009 Share Posted 10 May , 2009 Glad to hear it. !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone else has already put his name forward in the last week, they are not on this forum. I have now been in touch with them again tonight. Thanks for P.M. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will O'Brien Posted 11 May , 2009 Share Posted 11 May , 2009 Will Brookwood (UK 14-18) is increasingly being used for men who died overseas where the exact location is not known or no appropriate memorial is available. It is also being used when army men died at sea in circumstances that would not warrant addition to one of the larger memorials that bear such died-at-sea names (eg Helles). Also, several of the smaller memorials are regarded as 'closed' where no new additions are possible for various reasons. Terry Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Dixon Posted 11 May , 2009 Share Posted 11 May , 2009 Fascinating, well done to all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 11 May , 2009 Author Share Posted 11 May , 2009 Sandy If you let me have the burial location, we can get Onley's commemoration moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 11 May , 2009 Author Share Posted 11 May , 2009 Sandy ONLEY's date of death now corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KevinEndon Posted 11 May , 2009 Share Posted 11 May , 2009 Sandy If you let me have the burial location, we can get Onley's commemoration moved. CWGC now have the details of his grave, they have been in touch with the council offices at Wellingborough via email this morning, Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 11 May , 2009 Share Posted 11 May , 2009 CWGC now have the details of his grave, they have been in touch with the council offices at Wellingborough via email this morning, I am glad about that because Jayne (Wellingborough) has been in touch with me about Frederick since last summer as I asked about him because of my War Project. She is also delighted that he is now on the CWGC. Now for a headstone. Apparently the person who put his name forward is from the Essex Branch of the WF. I dropped out as soon as I heard the person had put him forward last week. Also Terry you asked everyone to stand down when I enquired about him last year. I obviously did on the forum, but not personally. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 11 May , 2009 Author Share Posted 11 May , 2009 The timeline on this one is that Onley was discovered to be missing by Kevin O'Neill last year during his IFCP searches of SDGW and was put forward by the In From the Cold Project on 03.04.09 after obtaining his death certificate as evidence as part of a large 'UK deaths' batch. I was notified that our submission had been accepted by MoD on 23.04.09 and he was entered in the Debt of Honour on 08.05.09 as noted above. Now he has his grave identified, it will be inspected in due course by CWGC to see if there is a private memorial in place. If there is none or it is in an unacceptable condition, they will seek permission to erect an official stone. Sandy has been on the case throughout and it is a good job done by all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 11 May , 2009 Share Posted 11 May , 2009 Terry would you like me to put a picture of Frederick's stone here. Sorry for a minute I couldn't find a full image of it. It is the one in front of the CWG stone. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 11 May , 2009 Author Share Posted 11 May , 2009 Sandy That would be an good idea. It would round off the tale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KevinEndon Posted 11 May , 2009 Share Posted 11 May , 2009 It may be the photo but don't the 2 graves look mighty close to each other, I wonder why this is, Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 11 May , 2009 Share Posted 11 May , 2009 It must be how it is being viewed. In the Cemetery itself both are on different rows. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warproject Posted 12 May , 2009 Share Posted 12 May , 2009 Here is another view of part of the Cemetery. There is hardly enough room to put your feet between the rows. Just had an e-mail from Jayne who said the CWGC phoned her yesterday. Sandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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