salientpoints Posted 2 April , 2004 Share Posted 2 April , 2004 Hi, Thanks to recent posts on the PRO database increase, I have now managed to find medal cards on two more family members. I have one query on this chap below, a Robert Ernest Cuthbert. I can only seem to find one on the database so wanted to see if this concurrs with Pals view on the image below. Is this chap wearing Northumberland Fusiliers uniform? thanks Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salientpoints Posted 2 April , 2004 Author Share Posted 2 April , 2004 And here is close up of armband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raster Scanning Posted 2 April , 2004 Share Posted 2 April , 2004 This is most definately Royal Flying Corps or possibly RAF. Brgds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 2 April , 2004 Share Posted 2 April , 2004 Definitely the Royal Flying Corps. Whilst the maternity jacket is RFC, there was a transition after the RAF was formed in April 1918 and some ORs wore this item well into September 1918. But the shoulder badge is the clincher as this was removed when the RAF came into being - I have a diary entry from my grandfather about this, he wasn't happy to do it! Probably hwy he wore the RFC tie in later years but not an RAF one!! If your relative transferred to the RAF, his record will be found in Air 79 at the PRO. Good hunting. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salientpoints Posted 2 April , 2004 Author Share Posted 2 April , 2004 Thanks chaps. That's one great-grandfather and I never knew anymore than this photograph. Maybe his medal card was lost in the WW2 damage Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 2 April , 2004 Share Posted 2 April , 2004 Thanks chaps. That's one great-grandfather and I never knew anymore than this photograph. Maybe his medal card was lost in the WW2 damage Ryan RAF records unlike Army records all survived as they were stored in a different place. If he did not transfer from the RFC to the RAF that's a different story, his record would have been with the army ones. I am happy to do the look-up for a small donation to the forum. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salientpoints Posted 3 April , 2004 Author Share Posted 3 April , 2004 Ian your offer is greatly appreciated. How does £10 for the forum sound? What can be found out? Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 3 April , 2004 Share Posted 3 April , 2004 Ian`s reply reminds me of an ex-RFC OR I knew. I asked him what kind of ceremony they had on the day the RFC became the RAF. (I imagined a big parade, marching bands etc). He said "Ceremony! The Sergeant came into the billet, gave us some shoulder flashes, told us to sew them on PDQ and went out. The ceremony was over!" Phil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salientpoints Posted 5 April , 2004 Author Share Posted 5 April , 2004 Hi Ian, further to this as the online PRO seems to be playing up would you be able to see if there is a Edwin Frederick William Bird, Born 1869 Died 1940. I don't know if this is of any help but he was christened May 30th 1869 St Stevens Church, Richmond Victoria AUSTRALIA so may have served therefore in an Australian unit in which case would this be a different scenario? Cheers Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 6 April , 2004 Share Posted 6 April , 2004 Ryan, If you send Chris Baker a £10 donation, I will do the necessary look up! Cheers - Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salientpoints Posted 7 April , 2004 Author Share Posted 7 April , 2004 Hi Ian, One payment on its way Cheers Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salientpoints Posted 3 May , 2004 Author Share Posted 3 May , 2004 Hi Ian, Just wondering if you have had any luck for me? I've no idea on timescales for this sort of thing so I appologise if I am too keen! Thanks in advance Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 3 May , 2004 Share Posted 3 May , 2004 Ryan - Did you send CB a £10? I am going to the NA tomorrow so I should be able to do it then. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salientpoints Posted 3 May , 2004 Author Share Posted 3 May , 2004 Yup on 7th April. I'm sure he can verify but I do have my paypal receipt Thanks so much Ian Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 3 May , 2004 Share Posted 3 May , 2004 Ryan - OK. I will do the look-up for a Robert Ernest CUTHBERT RFC poss RAF. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 4 May , 2004 Share Posted 4 May , 2004 Ryan, Sorry - no records for Cuthbert or Bird exist. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salientpoints Posted 4 May , 2004 Author Share Posted 4 May , 2004 Ok Thanks for your efforts Ian, Does that mean a dead end? or could Cuthbert be on RAF roll instead? As for Bird I guess he may be on Australian rolls. Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 4 May , 2004 Share Posted 4 May , 2004 Ryan, I tried both RFC & RAF We could be looking at Home Service RFC, transferring to an HS Army unit prior to the formation of the RAF (?) - This was the same for Pte Rackman who featured on our Remembering Today early in the new year. It is no the end of the trail - it just needs moire thought! Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salientpoints Posted 8 May , 2004 Author Share Posted 8 May , 2004 Ryan, I tried both RFC & RAF We could be looking at Home Service RFC, transferring to an HS Army unit prior to the formation of the RAF (?) - This was the same for Pte Rackman who featured on our Remembering Today early in the new year. It is no the end of the trail - it just needs moire thought! Ian Thanks Ian, As a novice in family history tracing where does that mean I go now? Cheers Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Bowbrick Posted 8 May , 2004 Share Posted 8 May , 2004 Ryan, Is there any more information that you can provide me with? Cheers - Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salientpoints Posted 8 May , 2004 Author Share Posted 8 May , 2004 Hi Ian, All I have exactly is that name and the one photo. Is there anything more specific you can suggest? I'm not sure I'll be able to dig anything up but will try for you Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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