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[zippo]

I am looking for any information on

Eleanor Barbara England.

married 19/4/1917 in London

Alfred Oswald McMullin MC

They came to Australia in 1919,and in 1920 had a daughter Mary,

the marriage was not a success and she returned to England in the

early 1920's.Then the trail goes cold,family legend has it that she

was killed in the Blitz.Any suggestions as to where I might look?

Any ideas would be much appreciated.

[SiegeGunner]

The CWGC database lists civilian casualties of WW2. There is an Emily Ellen England (aged 66) listed, but no E or B McMullin. If she returned to the UK in the early 20s, she may, of course, have re-married and acquired another surname.

[apwright]

Was she the daughter (born Ireland, c.1895) of Capt. Alick Thornber ENGLAND (1/Derbyshire Regt., died in the Boer War) and Eleanor (nee MEYNELL, of Meynell Langley, Kirk Langley, Derbyshire)? If so, she may have returned to her mother's family, and it might be worth contacting meynell-langley.co.uk

I've had a quick look through the marriages & deaths for an Eleanor B ENGLAND/McMULLIN from 1921 to 1944, but without success.

If this isn't her, do you have any other clues to her origin prior to her marrying Major McMullin?

Adrian

[grantowi]

The Eleanor B that Adrian has located is the only one in the 1901 census:

ENGLAND, Eleanor Head Widow F 32 1869 Living On Own Means Kirk Langley Derbyshire

ENGLAND, Eleanor B Daughter Single F 5 1896 Ireland

CHAPMAN, Matilda M Servant Widow F 32 1869 Cook Domestic Alfold Surrey

BERNARD, Florence Servant Single F 20 1881 Housemaid Domestic Twyford Berkshire

MAYNELL, Emma Sister Single F 23 1878 Kirk Langley Derbyshire

Living at Gordon Road, Frimley, Camberley, Surry

There is a marriage enrty for Eleanor B ENGLAND m Alfred O Mc MULLIN

St Martin, 1A, 1269, 3rd Qtr, 1917

Also had a look on the ships lists but couldn't see them

Grant

[grantowi]

Not sure if you have this, but came across when looking for somthing else:

Name: Mrs E B MCMULLIN

Date of departure: 12 April 1919

Port of departure: Liverpool

Passenger destination port: Adelaide, Australia

Passenger destination: Adelaide, Australia

Date of Birth:

Age:

Marital status: Married

Sex: Female

Occupation: None

Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 3

Ship: WYREEMA

Official Number: 124247

Master's name: H Upward

Steamship Line: Australasian Utd S Nav Co

Where bound: Australia

Square feet:

Registered tonnage: 3361

Passengers on voyage: 30

I thought it was a bit funny that such a big ship, only carried 30 passengers. So I had a look at the manifest and saw that the 30 were civillians (made up of 23 adult and 7 children) and also on board were 46 officers and 828 other ranks af Australian Troops.

What a way to start a marriage, going to your new home on a troop ship, no wonder the marriage didn't last :-)

Did the daughter stay with the father or come back to Brittian with the mother ?

What was the daughters name?

Grant

[zippo]

Thank you all for your help and replies..I know have some where else to look Her daughter Mary remained in Australia and went to live with her aunt,sadly she died,from diptheria in 1927.As the very youngest of a large family,by the the time I started to ask questions"it's all so long ago,dear",although I spent a lot of time with that aunt,there was very little of her toys etc remaining....too much sadly had happened since.Interestingly Alf's brother who was KIA on4/10/1917,was often spoken of by the family,in fond and happy terms,I guess this is what piqued my interest in WW1.I guess I was hoping someone would pipe up and say "Oh,she was a relation"and my query would be answered.As far as i know,we knew very little about her, there are no traces of her in family papers or any photos.Coming to Australia and then going to live in a very islolated area must have been an awful shock to her,the family were still coming to terms with Wal's death and trying to reorganise their lives.At some stage,they left that area and moved to the far North Coast of NSW,where they had a dairy and raised pigs and also grew stone fruit all VERY hard work.It appears that my GF gave them some money to make the move and then removed Alf from his will!At some stage Alf returned "home" and in 1926 married and had anther daughter,who sadly died of polio,Mary did not join this family but remaind with her aunt and arter dying was buried in the family plot.

Hope I haven't bored you too much and thanks again for your help and interest.

P.s. just worked out that Mary would have been concieved "at sea"

[zippo]

Quick update,emailed to meynell langley but no response so far;will keep you posted.Thanks for your help.

[grantowi]

Just having a look on TNA site, and there is a record for an Airwomen Eleanor ENGLAND 24176 dated November 1918

Looking on the 1901 census there are only two Eleanor ENGLAND's who would fit the age frame.

Might be worth shelling out the £3.50 for a look - http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documen...p;resultcount=1

Fingers crossed

Grant

[zippo]

Do you think that as she was married early 1917,that she could have kept her maiden name and continued to work?I also forgot to mention that she was known as Barbara/Bubbles so I am somewhat doubtful that it's her,thanks anyway.

[zippo]

Well it's taken me ages to find some more info,but it looks as if I was looking in the wrong place.While browsing old newspapers,online,I came across a divorce hearing/petition/whatever.It appears that she decamped with a"commercial traveller"to New Zealand,so the story of return to the UK was a Furphy.Thanks to all who tried to help,have yet to follow up the NZ thread.