maple copse

[BIFFO]

I am off to ieper in a couple of weeks intend to visit maple copse poss birr crossroads,any photos wanted

biff

[stiletto_33853]

Biff,

If at all possible could you photograph the memorial headstone in Maple Copse to

E.G. Shuttle, B/952

Rifle Brigade

20/3/16

Special Memorial D.12.

Many thanks

Andy

[BIFFO]

HIYA ANDY,if I can find it you will have your photo,as its a special memorial I take it he was buried then then lost

biff

[Cnock]

Maple Copse cem

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/i...;hl=maple+copse

Regards,

Cnock

[Neil Mackenzie]

Biff.

I don't need any photos but while you are there please can you stop by the graves of the brothers Fred & William Tyerman (the spelling on the gravestones is incorrect as CWGC has them as Tyreman) - they are commemorated by Special Memorials at F7 and F8.

The excellent North Allerton Memorial site by Stephen Metcalfe has this info regarding the Brompton Memorial on which both are commemorated.

“Fred and William were inseperable both in life and in death and it seems only fitting to keep them together on the same page on this site. Their regimental numbers were consecutive and you can almost picture them standing together, waiting to enlist at the Drill Hall in Northallerton. They both enlisted as territorials in the 4th Yorkshire Regiment before the outbreak of War and served in the same Company of the Battalion ("Z" Company). They were killed within days of each other and were buried side by side in Maple Copse Cemetery . The Cemetery was later destroyed by shellfire as the War washed back and forth over the area for the next two and a half years. Their graves were lost but they are now commemorated in the cemetery by two special memorials, erected side by side, which state that the two brothers are known to have been buried there.

Their parents were called Benjamin and Elizabeth, though their father, who worked as a weaver, died before the outbreak of War, in 1912, leaving Elizabeth to raise at least three sons and one daughter alone. They lived on Church View in Brompton. Both men were keen and talented footballers. Fred played for Brompton Albion and William played as a forward for Brompton F.C. with whom he won four medals in the Allertonshire League.

At the end of February 1916 the 4th Yorkshires were occupying the front line trenches to the North of Hill 60 in the Southern Sector of the Ypres Salient. Their positions were on the edge of planned British local attacks which were a constant feature of the fighting in this part of the Salient. The Battalion was ordered to make mock demonstrations to make it look like they were about to attack, to divert the Germans' attentions away from the real attack. This resulted in the Battalion having to endure heavy German artillery and machine gun fire. At about 10.30 am. on 27th February 1916, Fred Tyerman was working as batman for his new officer, Capt. Sproxton after his previous charge, Lt. Welsh, had been wounded and died of his wounds in hospital at Boulougne. He was in the officer's dugout busy preparing breakfast when a shell scored a direct hit, mortally wounding Pte. Tyerman who died a few minutes later.

William met his fate a few days later, on 2nd March 1916, when he was shot through the lung in the early hours of the morning. Nothing is known about the circumstances in which he received his wound, but he was taken to a nearby Dressing Station, where died shortly afterwards. "

Fred is also listed on the Menin Gate under the correct spelling of his name. Getting CWGC corrected for the brothers is on Terry Denham's lenghty 'to do' list!

If you have not been there before Maple Copse is a lovely cemtery especially in the sunshine.

Have a good trip.

Many thanks.

Neil

[BIFFO]

Thanks chaps,

cnock I have looked at your link,one of your pics shows what I want to see ie the view to hill 62.

neil it will be my pleasure to stop by bros tyreman and give them my thoughts and a pat to say thank you,I have never been there before,while there I am going to look for a canadian unknown and give him a cross from my canadian penfriends,does any one know where I can get a little candian flag in ieper guardsman book shop ???,