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New CWGC Commemorations


Terry Denham

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CWGC added the following 'new' WW1 casualties to its Debt of Honour database today – Tuesday 31st March.

Sjt William HARLING

161 4th Bn, The Loyal North Lancashire Regiment

Died 15.06.15 Age 35

Commemoration: Le Touret Memorial, France

Pte Walter HAY

L/10421 1st Bn, Middlesex Regiment

Died 31.10.14 Age 27

Commemoration: Ploegsteert Memorial, Belgium

2/Lt John Goldsworthy HUNT

Royal Army Service Corps

Died 11.02.19 Age 43

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

Capt Alfred KEENE CMG DSO

Royal Garrison Artillery

Died 21.04.18 Age 63

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

Pte Thomas LAWLESS

195 2 Bn, Manchester Regiment

Died 12.10.15 Age 32

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

Cpl James Neil Thomson MARR

SS/23072 Army Service Corps

Died 03.11.16 Age 42

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

WO.I Hector Ellrington McMURTRIE

1101 Australian Naval and Military Force

Died 19.04.19

Buried: Brighton General Cemetery, Victoria, Australia

Private George Johnson WALKER

5111 28th Bn, Australian Infantry

Died 06.04.18

Buried: Perth (Karrakatta) General Cemetery, WA, Australia

NOT FORGOTTEN

With the exception of the two Australian casualties, the remainder above are In From The Cold cases.

Sjt Harling was killed in action (Volunteer: Bernie Barton)

Pte Hay was killed in action (Volunteer: Adrian Wright)

2/Lt Hunt died of pneumonia (Volunteer: Kevin O’Neill)

Capt Keene died of pneumonia (Volunteer: Andy Massard)

- He retired as a brevet colonel and returned to work at the War Office as a captain.

Pte Lawless died of phthisis and exhaustion (Volunteer: Kevin O’Neill)

Cpl Marr died of a diseased larynx (Volunteer: Peter Woodger)

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May They Rest In Peace

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CWGC added the following 'new' WW1 casualties to its Debt of Honour database today – Tuesday 31st March.

Capt Alfred KEENE CMG DSO

Royal Garrison Artillery

Died 21.04.18 Age 63

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

NOT FORGOTTEN

Capt Keene died of pneumonia (Volunteer: Andy Massard)

- He retired as a brevet colonel and returned to work at the War Office as a captain.

YES!

Been away on a promotion course with the Australian Army for the last five weeks and here we are.

That is outstanding. Wow, and it didn't take that long either.

Gone, but no longer forgotten.

Cheers Andy.

P.S. Terry, you are a star.

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Raising a glass to the memory of William, Walter, John, Alfred, Thomas, James, Hector & George. Raising another to the efforts of Bernie, Adrian, Kev, Andy & Peter.

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Pte Thomas LAWLESS

195 2 Bn, Manchester Regiment

Died 12.10.15 Age 32

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

I wonder if Haribo picked up on this one or would have picked up on it.

Kevin

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Guest KevinEndon

TERRY/JOHN, IS 2/Lt John Goldsworthy HUNT the first officer through from the ODGW Disc search and if so can we expect many more,

Kevin

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Terry

Apologies if I've asked this before - but would CWGC undertake any investigations to establish a place of burial before adding a man to Brookwood?

I'm thinking of Lawless who appears to have have had a Salford connection prior to death and whose death is registered in the city. Seems a fair bet that he's buried locally. Would CWGC perhaps have emailed the local cemeteries department to see if they had a burial record?

John

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They do make some efforts, yes, but they can only undertake a certain amount - usually when there is some clue already in existence.

However, these days the researchers who submit the cases often do it. Several IFCP cases have initially been allocated to the Memorial but later graves have been found.

There is no stress having a name allocated to the Memorial as the names will not be inscribed for a number of years yet (waiting for the extension to be built) and there is plenty of time for research to winkle out a grave.

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I have already found a few graves of those on the Brookwood Memorial a task I took on as part of IFCP - however it is one of those things that I can only when I have some spare time

Chris

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No luck with Weaste the three graves are as follows;

SURNAME REPORT FOR LAWLESS IN WEASTE CEMETERY

Grave Ref. 1159 Section C20

Of

Your

Charity Pray For The

Soul

Of

Ann FLOOD

Who Departed This Life June

11th 1879 Aged 76 Years

May She Rest In Peace

Also

Also Catharine LAWLESS

Who Departed This Life May 2nd 1883

Aged 80 Years

Ellen

The Beloved Wife Of Thomas HIGGINBOTTOM

Who Departed This Life June 19th 1874

Aged 51 Years

grave number C20.2590

*******

Grave Ref. 1249 Section C20

In Memory Of

Henry Joseph LAWLESS

Who Died May 16th 1909 In His 71st Year

Also His Wife

Emma LAWLESS

Who Died December 15th 1903 Aged 64 Years

Edward Vincent LAWLESS

Born 21st July 1871 Died 8th November 1871

Also Of Francess ANNIE LAWLESS

Born 27th April 1877 Died 28th December 1877

Rose Winifrid LAWLESS

Born October 1st 1882 Died October 26th 1883

grave number C20.2986

*******

Grave Ref. 1464 Section A9

In

Loving Memory

Of

Patrick LAWLESS

Who Died November 9th 1892

Aged 64 Years

Also Marie

Beloved Wife Of Above

Who Died March 4th 1919

Aged 73 Years

Also John

The Beloved Son Of Above

Who Died February 15th 1886

In His 47th Year

Also James

The Beloved Husband Of

Sarah LAWLESS

Who Died December 11th 1914

Aged 34 Years

R.I.P.

Also Albert Son Of The Above

Died September 1st 1909

Aged 5 Months

Also Bridget LARKIN

Who Died October 23rd 1900

Aged 60 Years

grave number A9.375

*******

Will try and get to Agecroft Cem to make an enquiry.

Garry

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Garry

Thanks for your help here.

If you're going to try and sweet-talk Agecroft into doing a freebie look-up (and it'll be worth a try, as they'll be able to access all the city cemetery records), feel free to mention the Project is working with CWGC/MoD to find the actual burial sites. If you think you're onto a winner with them, drop me a PM to discuss further.

John

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John,

No problem, I have sent an email to Agecroft with regards to this matter. Look ups should be FOC, a charge of £15 is only made when extra details are required (although the staff seem to be confused about this). There are many threads concerning this problem at the Salford Forum. Link provided if anyone's interested.

Regards,

Garry

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Hi Guys

Have any of these Brookwood Memorial cases had thier graves identified yet?

I recently found the grave of William Moss after a bit of rooting around. He was a Navy non-commemorated guy!

I'll try and find another burial if you let me know who is currently outstanding

Dianne

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Several have been found in recent years and had their names 'moved' to their grave sites.

You can check the CWGC website for the complete list of names on the memorial.

Note that it is not the Brookwood Memorial but the Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial which we are talking about. The former is a WW2 memorial and the latter WW1.

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Hi Pals,

Thomas was buried in Weaste Cemetery 14th October 1915, information found in local paper dated 16th October. "October 14, Thomas Lawless, Ordsall Lane, Salford, aged 30 years" I have a copy if needed.

Went to Agecroft who confirm date and that, unfortunately, he is buried in a common/unmarked grave. A plot number coud not be given as records were not kept for common graves. Thomas's burial number is 245618 and he was a Roman Catholic.

Regards,

Garry

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Garry

Many thanks, mate.

Think we can now regard Thomas as being properly "in from the cold", even though we can't ID a specific plot.

Award yourself a large drink.

John

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Garry

Many thanks, mate.

Think we can now regard Thomas as being properly "in from the cold", even though we can't ID a specific plot.

Award yourself a large drink.

John

john.

i believe that thomas,s father,was called patrick,but ime not very good with census stuff,he may be the patrick that garry found in weaste cemetery

mack

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  • 2 years later...

Went to Karrakatta Cemetery recently and photographed this WWI Non Com

Private GEORGE JOHNSON WALKER

5111, 28th bn., Australian Infantry, A.I.F.

Who died on 06 April 1918

Ang. Grave HA 0208

This one is in a reclaimed section of the cemetery

Cheers

Paul

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  • 6 months later...

Capt Alfred KEENE CMG DSO

Royal Garrison Artillery

Died 21.04.18 Age 63

Commemoration: Brookwood (United Kingdom 1914-1918) Memorial, Surrey, UK

Grave Found

Guildford The Mount Cemetery

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Chris,

Thanks for going to the effort of finding Alfred's grave. He was the first success I had with the project.

Cheers Andy.

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  • 3 years later...

KEENE, ALFRED

Rank:CaptainDate of Death:21/04/1918Age:63Regiment/Service:Royal Garrison ArtilleryAwards:C M G, D S OGrave Reference:Block E. Grave 12. Cemetery:GUILDFORD CEMETERY

Commemoration Moved From UK BOR.

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  • 1 year later...

MARR, JAMES NEIL THOMSON

Rank:
Corporal
Service No:
SS/23072
Date of Death:
03/11/1916
Age:
42
Regiment/Service:
Army Service Corps
Panel Reference:
Panel 4
Memorial:
BROOKWOOD 1914-1918 MEMORIAL
 
Grave Found Camberwell Old Cemetery
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