Chris_Baker Posted 20 March , 2009 Share Posted 20 March , 2009 Being no expert on the flyboys, I find tracking down the locations of RFC/RAF training units quite difficult. Is there an existing central reference anywhere? If not, could we start a list here? Maybe the TDS's too? I have two I am particularly interested in 39 Training Squadron 45 Training Squadron. All help gratefully received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted 20 March , 2009 Share Posted 20 March , 2009 Chris Nos 39 and 45 Training Squadrons were both absorbed into No 46 Training Depot Station at Rendcombe. The table below of TS and TDS locations has lost a bit of form in its conversion from a table, but some sense can be made of it. TS Wing Group Area Location No 1 TS See No 29 TDS; nucleus of No 74 Sqn at Northolt on 1 Jul 1917; nucleus of No 88 Sqn at Gosport on 24 Jul 1917 No 2 TS See No 30 TDS No 3 TS Nucleus of No 86 Sqn at Shoreham on 1 Sep 1917 No 4 TS See No 30 TDS No 5 TS Based at Wyton, which was downgraded to a ‘Mobilsation Station’ No 6 TS See No 32 TDS; nucleus of No 89 Sqn at Catterick on 24 Jul 1917 No 7 TS See Nos 8 & 12 TDS No 8 TS See Nos 8 & 12 TDS No 9 TS 8 (Training) Group South Western Gosport No 10 TS See No 9 TDS; nucleus of No 90 Sqn at Shawbury on 8 Oct 1917 No 11 TS See No 34 TDS No 12 TS Based at Thetford; the base was allocated to No 4School of Navigation & Bomb Dropping. Disbanded? No 14 TS See No 38 TDS No 15 TS See No 39 TDS No 18 TS See No 32 TDS No 19 TS 3rd 11 (Irish) Group Curragh Camp No 20 TS See No 40 TDS No 22 TS 20th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Aboukir No 23 TS 20th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Aboukir No 24 TS See Nos 8 & 12 TDS No 25 TS Based at Thetford; the base was allocated to No 4 School of Navigation & Bomb Dropping. Disbanded? No 26 TS Based at Narborough; the base was allocated to the Independent Force. Disbanded? No 27 TS Nucleus of No 79 Sqn at Gosport on 1 Aug 1917 No 31 TS Based at Wyton, which was downgraded to a ‘Mobilsation Station’ No 34 TS See No 13 TDS No 36 TS See No 32 TDS; nucleus of No 80 Sqn at Thetford on 1 Aug 1917 No 37 TS See No 39 TDS No 38 TS See No 45 TDS No 39 TS See No 46 TDS No 40 TS 18th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Croydon No 41 TS See No 47 TDS No 42 TS See No 42 TDS No 42 TS 6th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Eastbourne No 43 TS See No 13 TDS; nucleus for No 95 Sqn at Ternhill on 8 Oct 1917 No 44 TS See No 48 TDS No 44 TS 27th 12 (Training) Group Midland Waddington No 45 TS See No 46 TDS No 47 TS See No 48 TDS No 48 TS See No 48 TDS No 49 TS See No 47 TDS No 50 TS See No 39 TDS No 51 TS See No 48 TDS No 53 TS See No 40 TDS No 56 TS See No 41 TDS No 58 TS 69th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Suez No 59 TS See No 45 TDS No 60 TS See No 34 TDS No 61 TS See No 46 TDS No 63 TS 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Redcar No 64 TS See No 40 TDS No 67 TS See No 9 TDS No 68 TS See No 38 TDS No 69 TS Based at Narborough; the base was allocated to the Independent Force. Disbanded? No 70 TS See No 29 TDS No 71 TS See Nos 8 & 12 TDS No 72 TS 23rd 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Beverley No 74 TS See No 41 TDS No 75 TS See No 52 TDS No 85 TS See No 42 TDS No 87 TS See No 42 TDS No 90 TS See No 51 TDS No 91 TS Became Wireless Telegraphy School No 92 TS Became Wireless Telegraphy School No 93 TS Became Wireless Telegraphy School No 95 TS Became Wireless Telegraphy School No 95 TS See No 51 TDS No 99 TS See No 11 TDS No 103 TS See No 11 TDS No 107 TS See No 14 TDS No 108 TS See No 14 TDS No 109 TS See No 14 TDS No 117 TS See No 48 TDS No 123 TS See No 48 TDS No 124 TS See No 11 TDS No 125 TS See No 11 TDS No 126 TS See No 11 TDS No 188 (N) TS 53rd Southern Group Home Defence Throwley No 189 (N) TS 49th Southern Group Home Defence Suttons Farm No 190 (N) TS 47th Southern Group Home Defence Upwood No 191 (N) TS 47th Southern Group Home Defence Upwood No 192 (N) TS 47th Southern Group Home Defence Newmarket No 198 (N) TS 50th Southern Group Home Defence Rochford No 201 TS 22 (Operations) Group North Western East Fortune TDS Wing Group Area Location No 1 TDS 35th 3 (Training) Group Midland Wittering No 2 TDS 20 (Training) Group North Western Gullane No 3 TDS 8 (Training) Group South Western Lopcombe Corner No 4 TDS 37th 13 (Training) Group Midland Hooton Park No 5 TDS 35th 3 (Training) Group Midland Easton-on-the-Hill No 6 TDS 33rd 7 (Training) Group South Western Boscombe No 7 TDS 39th 3 (Training) Group Midland Feltwell N0 8 TDS 7th 7 (Training) Group South Western Netheravon No 9 TDS 29th 13 (Training) Group Midland Shawbury No 10 TDS 35th 3 (Training) Group Midland Harling Road No 11 TDS 33rd 7 (Training) Group South Western Old Sarum No 12 TDS 7th 7 (Training) Group South Western Netheravon No 13 TDS 29th 13 (Training) Group Midland Ternhill No 14 TDS 33rd 8 (Training) Group South Western Lake Down No 15 TDS 27th 12 (Training) Group Midland Hucknall No 16 TDS 69th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Abu Sueir No 17 TDS 32th 26 (Training) Group Egypt El Ferdan No 18 TDS 32th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Ismailia No 19 TDS 69th 26 (Training) Group Egypt El Rimal No 20 TDS 20th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Aboukir No 21 TDS 8th 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Driffield No 22 TDS 3rd 11 (Irish) Group Gormanstown No 23 TDS 3rd 11 (Irish) Group Baldonell No 24 TDS 3rd 11 (Irish) Group Collinstown No 25 TDS 3rd 11 (Irish) Group Tallaght No 26 TDS 20 (Training) Group North Western Edzell No 27 TDS 20 (Training) Group North Western Crail No 28 TDS 21st 2 (Training) Group South Eastern Weston-on-the-Green No 29 TDS 8 (Training) Group South Western Beaulieu No 30 TDS 18th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Northolt No 31 TDS 26th 3 (Training) Group Midland Fowlmere No 32 TDS 20 (Training) Group North Western Montrose No 33 TDS 21st 2 (Training) Group South Eastern Witney No 34 TDS 23rd 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Scampton No 35 TDS 26th 3 (Training) Group Midland Duxford No 36 TDS 28th 7 (Training) Group South Western Yatesbury No 37 TDS 28th 7 (Training) Group South Western Yatesbury No 38 TDS 8th 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Tadcaster No 39 TDS 24th 12 (Training) Group Midland Spittlegate No 40 TDS 24th 12 (Training) Group Midland Harlaxton No 41 TDS 56th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern London Colney No 42 TDS 18th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Hounslow No 43 TDS 8 (Training) Group South Western Chattis Hill No 44 TDS 21st 2 (Training) Group South Eastern Bicester No 45 TDS 21st 2 (Training) Group South Eastern Rendcombe No 46 TDS 23rd 16 (Training) Group North Eastern South Carlton No 47 TDS 23rd 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Doncaster No 48 TDS 27th 12 (Training) Group Midland Waddington No 49 TDS 19th 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Catterick No 50 TDS 6th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Eastbourne No 51 TDS 37th 13 (Training) Group Midland North Shotwick No 52 TDS 19th 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Cramlington No 54 TDS 56th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Fairlop No 55 TDS 35th 3 (Training) Group Midland Narborough No 56 TDS 59th 12 (Training) Group Midland Cranwell No 57 TDS 59th 12 (Training) Group Midland Cranwell No 58 TDS 59th 12 (Training) Group Midland Cranwell No 59 TDS 59th 12 (Training) Group Midland Scopwick No 204 TDS 58th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Eastchurch No 205 TDS 84th BEF Vendome No 209 TDS 10 (Operations) Group South Western Lee-on-Solent No 210 TDS 10 (Operations) Group South Western Calshot No 212 TDS 84th BEF Vendome I hope that some of this is useful. 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Chris_Baker Posted 21 March , 2009 Author Share Posted 21 March , 2009 Gareth, that's brilliant. Thanks very much. Would you mind if I turned it into a page on the LLT - perhaps more easily found there, if I structure it right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin Posted 21 March , 2009 Share Posted 21 March , 2009 Chris Go ahead. I'm pleased to help. Regards Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhill Posted 21 March , 2009 Share Posted 21 March , 2009 From S.F. Wise Canadian Airmen and the First World War, I gather the following: Royal Flying Corps (Canada), later Royal Air Force (Canada) formed early in 1917. There were to be twenty training squadrons, known as 78 to 97 (Canadian) Reserve Squadrons, which in June 1917 were redesignated as Canadian Training Squadrons (CTS). Eventually they were all located in Southern Ontario, with the exception of those moved temporarily to Fort Worth, Texas over the winter of 1917 - 1918. While waiting for nucleus flights to arrive from England, a unit called 'X' Squadron began flying at Long Branch in February 1917. 79 Squadron began flying at Camp Borden in March 1917. By 10 April Squadrons 78 to 82 were flying there. In May 'X' Squadron moved to Camp Rathbun, to be joined there by the new 86 Squadron, while 83, 84, and 87 were at Camp Mohawk. By early July Long Branch hosted 'Y' Squadron as well as 88, 89, and 90 Squadrons, previously formed at Deseronto, and 91 Squadron. In October, 1917, the structure was this: 42 (BORDEN) Wing No 78 CTS No 79 CTS No 81 CTS No 82 CTS School of Aerial Gunnery 43 (DESERONTO) Wing No 80 CTS No 83 CTS No 84 CTS No 85 CTS No 86 CTS No 87 CTS 44 (NORTH TORONTO) Wing No 88 CTS No 89 CTS No 90 CTS No 91 CTS No 92 CTS In the spring of 1918 42 Wing moved from Camp Borden to Deseronto and 44 Wing from North Toronto to Camp Borden. Between November 1917 and April 1918 42 and 43 Wings were at Fort Worth Texas. The complex was known as Camp Taliaferro, with three aerodromes, Hicks, Everman, and Benbrook Fields. Also under RFC/RAF (Canada) were the 17th, 22nd,27th,28th, and 139th Aero Squadrons, although as the arrangement was a delicate one I don't know how it stood on official documents. I hope I have transcribed these accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickdavis Posted 26 March , 2009 Share Posted 26 March , 2009 39 RESERVE/TRAINING SQUADRON RFC/RAF BasesFormed in 19TH Wing at Montrose 26.8.1916. Designated as an Elementary Reserve Squadron and establishment at 23.12.1916 set at 18 MF. To 30th Wing 1.6.1916. To South Carlton 3.9.1917 and disbanded into 46 TDS at that station 27.7.1918. Representative Aeroplanes Avro 504A 7952, 7956, A518, A527, A549. Avro 504A/J C4323. Caudron G.III A2998. Curtiss JN4 A5161. MF Se.7 2974, 4018. MF Se.11 A2480, A2497, A4069, A4077, A4134, A6818, A6834, A6848, A7007, A7008, A7009, A7012, A7013, A7018, A7019, A7020, A7021, B4682. RAF BE2c 2583. RAF RE8 A3475. Sopwith Pup B2228, B6127, C261. Sopwith F1 Camel B4122, B7301, B7319, B7391, B7433, D1806. 45 RESERVE/TRAINING SQUADRON RFC/RAF BasesFormed in 18th Wing at London Colney 2.11.1916 with nucleus from 56 Squadron. To South Carlton and 23rd Wing 13.11.1916. Designated as a Higher Reserve Squadron and establishment at 23.12.1916 set at 6 HF + 6 Vickers FB + 6 DH2/FE8. Pushers given up 4.1917. Disbanded into 46 TDS at South Carlton 27.7.1918. Representative Aeroplanes Airco DH2 7886, 7940, A2538, A2588, A2609, A2620, A4796, A4992, A4993, A5034, A5035, A5051. Airco DH5 A9188, A9189, A9190, A9191, A9402, A9441, A9454, B4908. Avro 504A/J A3359, A3361, A3362, A3363, A3364, A3365, A3367, A3368, A3369, A8501, A8524, A8525, B909, B922, B3192, B3202, B3230, B3250. Avro 504J/K D7601, E9993. Bristol Scout D 5574. HF F.20 A1206, A1209, A1210, A1240. Nieuport 12 A5184, A5196, A6602. RAF FE8 A4888, A4909. Sopwith Pup B891, B1734, B1749, B4126, B5359. Sopwith F1 Camel B4625, B7314, B9151, B9182, C13, C1608, C1612, C1618, D6466, D6668. Vickers FB9 5289, 5290, 7817, 7831, 7832, 7834, A1415, A8606, A8607. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yossarian Posted 8 November , 2012 Share Posted 8 November , 2012 Gents, I'm researching Maj Arthur Keen's flying life and have similarly found that digging out detail on Training and Reserve Squadrons is not easy. My man was briefly with 14 ® Sqn from 27th Dec 1915 and transfered to 18 ® Sqn on 18th January 1916. His letters have him with this unit until July '16 when he joined 70 Sqn and the following month went to France. Letters and a bravery award have Arthur in Montrose (BE2c) and possibly flying this DH2 (A2582). He may have been undertaking advanced training or even instructing. Given that it wasn't unusual for talented individulas to be 'creamed off' to instruct. Given that training around this time was not normally extended due to mnpower (pilot) demands from the Front. Additionally during a rest tour he was with 34 & 44 ® Sqns from early Dec '16 until April '17 when he was posted to '40 in France. Does anyone have any thoughts while I sort through the data brought through by Gareth for Chris above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john-g Posted 9 November , 2012 Share Posted 9 November , 2012 One off if not the best referances for this sort of information is AIR-BRITIAN's Flying Training and Support Units sine 1912 by Sturtivannt and Hamlin published 2007 ISBN 0 85130 365 X 9780851 303695. John-g http://www.66squadron.co.uk/biogs/bailes.html http://www.66squadron.co.uk/biogs/bailes.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yossarian Posted 15 May , 2014 Share Posted 15 May , 2014 Hi John, sorry it has taken so long to get back to you. Thanks for the information above, I will see if I can grab the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 26 July , 2014 Author Share Posted 26 July , 2014 Five years later and I am back with another question about training units. Can anyone tell me anything about the location or activities of 93rd and 194th Training Squadrons in the Middle East in 1918? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Davies Posted 26 July , 2014 Share Posted 26 July , 2014 I can help a little with locations. 194 was formed a s a training squadron at El Amriya in Egypt on 9 August 1917 and it disbanded on 21 July 1918 into No16 Training Depot Station. Source: http://www.rafweb.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 26 July , 2014 Author Share Posted 26 July , 2014 Thanks, Gareth. As before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangoman Posted 1 July , 2016 Share Posted 1 July , 2016 On 20/03/2009 at 12:33, Dolphin said: Chris Nos 39 and 45 Training Squadrons were both absorbed into No 46 Training Depot Station at Rendcombe. The table below of TS and TDS locations has lost a bit of form in its conversion from a table, but some sense can be made of it. TS Wing Group Area Location No 1 TS See No 29 TDS; nucleus of No 74 Sqn at Northolt on 1 Jul 1917; nucleus of No 88 Sqn at Gosport on 24 Jul 1917 No 2 TS See No 30 TDS No 3 TS Nucleus of No 86 Sqn at Shoreham on 1 Sep 1917 No 4 TS See No 30 TDS No 5 TS Based at Wyton, which was downgraded to a ‘Mobilsation Station’ No 6 TS See No 32 TDS; nucleus of No 89 Sqn at Catterick on 24 Jul 1917 No 7 TS See Nos 8 & 12 TDS No 8 TS See Nos 8 & 12 TDS No 9 TS 8 (Training) Group South Western Gosport No 10 TS See No 9 TDS; nucleus of No 90 Sqn at Shawbury on 8 Oct 1917 No 11 TS See No 34 TDS No 12 TS Based at Thetford; the base was allocated to No 4School of Navigation & Bomb Dropping. Disbanded? No 14 TS See No 38 TDS No 15 TS See No 39 TDS No 18 TS See No 32 TDS No 19 TS 3rd 11 (Irish) Group Curragh Camp No 20 TS See No 40 TDS No 22 TS 20th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Aboukir No 23 TS 20th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Aboukir No 24 TS See Nos 8 & 12 TDS No 25 TS Based at Thetford; the base was allocated to No 4 School of Navigation & Bomb Dropping. Disbanded? No 26 TS Based at Narborough; the base was allocated to the Independent Force. Disbanded? No 27 TS Nucleus of No 79 Sqn at Gosport on 1 Aug 1917 No 31 TS Based at Wyton, which was downgraded to a ‘Mobilsation Station’ No 34 TS See No 13 TDS No 36 TS See No 32 TDS; nucleus of No 80 Sqn at Thetford on 1 Aug 1917 No 37 TS See No 39 TDS No 38 TS See No 45 TDS No 39 TS See No 46 TDS No 40 TS 18th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Croydon No 41 TS See No 47 TDS No 42 TS See No 42 TDS No 42 TS 6th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Eastbourne No 43 TS See No 13 TDS; nucleus for No 95 Sqn at Ternhill on 8 Oct 1917 No 44 TS See No 48 TDS No 44 TS 27th 12 (Training) Group Midland Waddington No 45 TS See No 46 TDS No 47 TS See No 48 TDS No 48 TS See No 48 TDS No 49 TS See No 47 TDS No 50 TS See No 39 TDS No 51 TS See No 48 TDS No 53 TS See No 40 TDS No 56 TS See No 41 TDS No 58 TS 69th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Suez No 59 TS See No 45 TDS No 60 TS See No 34 TDS No 61 TS See No 46 TDS No 63 TS 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Redcar No 64 TS See No 40 TDS No 67 TS See No 9 TDS No 68 TS See No 38 TDS No 69 TS Based at Narborough; the base was allocated to the Independent Force. Disbanded? No 70 TS See No 29 TDS No 71 TS See Nos 8 & 12 TDS No 72 TS 23rd 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Beverley No 74 TS See No 41 TDS No 75 TS See No 52 TDS No 85 TS See No 42 TDS No 87 TS See No 42 TDS No 90 TS See No 51 TDS No 91 TS Became Wireless Telegraphy School No 92 TS Became Wireless Telegraphy School No 93 TS Became Wireless Telegraphy School No 95 TS Became Wireless Telegraphy School No 95 TS See No 51 TDS No 99 TS See No 11 TDS No 103 TS See No 11 TDS No 107 TS See No 14 TDS No 108 TS See No 14 TDS No 109 TS See No 14 TDS No 117 TS See No 48 TDS No 123 TS See No 48 TDS No 124 TS See No 11 TDS No 125 TS See No 11 TDS No 126 TS See No 11 TDS No 188 (N) TS 53rd Southern Group Home Defence Throwley No 189 (N) TS 49th Southern Group Home Defence Suttons Farm No 190 (N) TS 47th Southern Group Home Defence Upwood No 191 (N) TS 47th Southern Group Home Defence Upwood No 192 (N) TS 47th Southern Group Home Defence Newmarket No 198 (N) TS 50th Southern Group Home Defence Rochford No 201 TS 22 (Operations) Group North Western East Fortune TDS Wing Group Area Location No 1 TDS 35th 3 (Training) Group Midland Wittering No 2 TDS 20 (Training) Group North Western Gullane No 3 TDS 8 (Training) Group South Western Lopcombe Corner No 4 TDS 37th 13 (Training) Group Midland Hooton Park No 5 TDS 35th 3 (Training) Group Midland Easton-on-the-Hill No 6 TDS 33rd 7 (Training) Group South Western Boscombe No 7 TDS 39th 3 (Training) Group Midland Feltwell N0 8 TDS 7th 7 (Training) Group South Western Netheravon No 9 TDS 29th 13 (Training) Group Midland Shawbury No 10 TDS 35th 3 (Training) Group Midland Harling Road No 11 TDS 33rd 7 (Training) Group South Western Old Sarum No 12 TDS 7th 7 (Training) Group South Western Netheravon No 13 TDS 29th 13 (Training) Group Midland Ternhill No 14 TDS 33rd 8 (Training) Group South Western Lake Down No 15 TDS 27th 12 (Training) Group Midland Hucknall No 16 TDS 69th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Abu Sueir No 17 TDS 32th 26 (Training) Group Egypt El Ferdan No 18 TDS 32th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Ismailia No 19 TDS 69th 26 (Training) Group Egypt El Rimal No 20 TDS 20th 26 (Training) Group Egypt Aboukir No 21 TDS 8th 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Driffield No 22 TDS 3rd 11 (Irish) Group Gormanstown No 23 TDS 3rd 11 (Irish) Group Baldonell No 24 TDS 3rd 11 (Irish) Group Collinstown No 25 TDS 3rd 11 (Irish) Group Tallaght No 26 TDS 20 (Training) Group North Western Edzell No 27 TDS 20 (Training) Group North Western Crail No 28 TDS 21st 2 (Training) Group South Eastern Weston-on-the-Green No 29 TDS 8 (Training) Group South Western Beaulieu No 30 TDS 18th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Northolt No 31 TDS 26th 3 (Training) Group Midland Fowlmere No 32 TDS 20 (Training) Group North Western Montrose No 33 TDS 21st 2 (Training) Group South Eastern Witney No 34 TDS 23rd 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Scampton No 35 TDS 26th 3 (Training) Group Midland Duxford No 36 TDS 28th 7 (Training) Group South Western Yatesbury No 37 TDS 28th 7 (Training) Group South Western Yatesbury No 38 TDS 8th 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Tadcaster No 39 TDS 24th 12 (Training) Group Midland Spittlegate No 40 TDS 24th 12 (Training) Group Midland Harlaxton No 41 TDS 56th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern London Colney No 42 TDS 18th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Hounslow No 43 TDS 8 (Training) Group South Western Chattis Hill No 44 TDS 21st 2 (Training) Group South Eastern Bicester No 45 TDS 21st 2 (Training) Group South Eastern Rendcombe No 46 TDS 23rd 16 (Training) Group North Eastern South Carlton No 47 TDS 23rd 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Doncaster No 48 TDS 27th 12 (Training) Group Midland Waddington No 49 TDS 19th 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Catterick No 50 TDS 6th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Eastbourne No 51 TDS 37th 13 (Training) Group Midland North Shotwick No 52 TDS 19th 16 (Training) Group North Eastern Cramlington No 54 TDS 56th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Fairlop No 55 TDS 35th 3 (Training) Group Midland Narborough No 56 TDS 59th 12 (Training) Group Midland Cranwell No 57 TDS 59th 12 (Training) Group Midland Cranwell No 58 TDS 59th 12 (Training) Group Midland Cranwell No 59 TDS 59th 12 (Training) Group Midland Scopwick No 204 TDS 58th 1 (Training) Group South Eastern Eastchurch No 205 TDS 84th BEF Vendome No 209 TDS 10 (Operations) Group South Western Lee-on-Solent No 210 TDS 10 (Operations) Group South Western Calshot No 212 TDS 84th BEF Vendome I hope that some of this is useful. Gareth I am researching those who are commemorated on our local village war memorial and I have a problem trying to establish where no 35 Training Squadron was based as this waswhere an Edwin Eckett was sent in January 1918. I can't quite fathom out from the above if No.35 TDS 26th 3 (Training) Group Midland Duxford and 35 TS are one and the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickdavis Posted 2 July , 2016 Share Posted 2 July , 2016 35 TS was at Port Meadow (Oxford) in January 1918, as a higher Training Squadron for prospective Bristol F2B pilots. 35 TDS didn't form until 17 July 1918, initially at Thetford and moving to Duxford on 21 August, tasked with training day light bombing pilots for DH9s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangoman Posted 2 July , 2016 Share Posted 2 July , 2016 My man enlisted on 28.12.1917 and was posted to 35 TS on 2.1.1918 as a 2nd Class Aircraft Mechanic and became a 3rd Class AM on 1.4.1918. I am trying to establish what happened to him in order for him to be hospitalised but what I have found out is that he was discharged from the Beaufort War Hospital on 25.5.1918 and died at home and was buried in our local graveyard on 16.2.1919. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quemerford Posted 2 July , 2016 Share Posted 2 July , 2016 Death registered at Keynsham: death certificate would be a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangoman Posted 2 July , 2016 Share Posted 2 July , 2016 Just now, quemerford said: Death registered at Keynsham: death certificate would be a good start. Ordered the death certificate yesterday. Great minds think alike :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quemerford Posted 2 July , 2016 Share Posted 2 July , 2016 Perfect! I suspect he succumbed to the flu epidemic, and that his discharge may have been unrelated. Would be interested to hear however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangoman Posted 2 July , 2016 Share Posted 2 July , 2016 1 minute ago, quemerford said: Perfect! I suspect he succumbed to the flu epidemic, and that his discharge may have been unrelated. Would be interested to hear however. Will let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangoman Posted 2 July , 2016 Share Posted 2 July , 2016 13 hours ago, mickdavis said: 35 TS was at Port Meadow (Oxford) in January 1918, as a higher Training Squadron for prospective Bristol F2B pilots. 35 TDS didn't form until 17 July 1918, initially at Thetford and moving to Duxford on 21 August, tasked with training day light bombing pilots for DH9s. This what another member has posted to me; 35 RESERVE/TRAINING SQUADRON RFC/RAF Bases Formed in 21st Wing at Filton 1.2.1917. Pre-ordained as a Higher Reserve Squadron and establishment, set 23.12.1916, 6 RE7 + 6 Bristol F2B + 6 Avro. To Northolt and 18th Wing 6.2.1917. Given temporary HD duty over the summer of 1917. To Port Meadow and 21st Wing 16.12.1917. Disbanded into 44 TDS at Port Meadow 15.8.1918. Commanding Officers Major L Henderson. Representative Aeroplanes AMC DH6 B2817, C7222. Avro 504A/J 7718, A5903, A8505, A8515. AW FK3 A1484. Bristol F2A A3314, A3325, A3332, A3344, A3345, A3351. Bristol F2B A7103, A7122, A7135, A7136, A7173, A7180, A7212, A7218, A7238, A7249, A7263, A7267, A7273, B1140, B1159, B1172, B8919, B8921, C830, C831, C897, C4647, C4660, C4674, C4804, C4805, C4812, C4813, C4830, C4833. MF Se.11 B4759. RAF BE2c 4442. RAF BE2d 5747, 5824. RAF BE2e 6263, 6296, 6755, 7207, A2853, A2952, A3060, A8637, A8681, B746, B4442. RAF FE2b 7212. RAF RE7 2194. RAF RE8 A3556, A3557, A3653, A3748, A3877, A3892, A4192, A4511, A4653, A4654, A4655, B739. RAF RE9 A4600. Unit Marking Red & white chequerboard on the noses of DH6 and F2B at Portmeadow. 44 TRAINING DEPOT STATION RAF Base Formed in 21st Wing at Port Meadow 15.8.1918, ex 35 and 71 TS. To Bicester in 21st Wing 1.10.1918. Autumn 1918 establishment 36 Bristol F2B + 36 Avro. Re-designated 44 Training Squadron 8.1919. Commanding Officers Representative Aeroplanes Avro 504J/K D2123, E1743, E4252, E4336, F8749, F9817. Bristol F2B A7238, B826, C759, C826, C830, C897, C4675, C4779, C4788, D7987, D8012, F4313. Sopwith Pup B6128. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quemerford Posted 2 July , 2016 Share Posted 2 July , 2016 That looks like Mick's data: Mick is 'Mr Training Squadron' (in fact 'Mr RFC' too!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangoman Posted 8 July , 2016 Share Posted 8 July , 2016 On 02/07/2016 at 15:14, quemerford said: Perfect! I suspect he succumbed to the flu epidemic, and that his discharge may have been unrelated. Would be interested to hear however. Edwin died of phthisis pulmonalis - TB or 'consumption' - on 19th February 1919 at his parents home in Cossham Street, Mangotsfield. Present at his death was his sister Maud Palmer (nee Eckett) of St. James' Street, Mangotsfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quemerford Posted 9 July , 2016 Share Posted 9 July , 2016 17 hours ago, Mangoman said: Edwin died of phthisis pulmonalis - TB or 'consumption' - on 19th February 1919 at his parents home in Cossham Street, Mangotsfield. Present at his death was his sister Maud Palmer (nee Eckett) of St. James' Street, Mangotsfield Many thanks - one forgets the many ways people died at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Bennett Posted 4 September , 2018 Share Posted 4 September , 2018 Chris I have browsed significant archived items and would be interested to continue research for the following Air Mechanic 3rd Class Frederick L MOORE - RFC Service No. 87470The published Service Record indicates a Training Wing 5 Stn.39 Wing. Engagement 16/11/1915 age 19 years.Civilan Profession - Photographer Service Trade - PhotographerBEF - Duration of War.Transferred to RAF 1 April 1918 Service to be confirmed Further information on his special unit would be appreciatedJean Bennett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renick Posted 2 August , 2020 Share Posted 2 August , 2020 Hi Guys Sorry to be reviving an old thread here but I'm looking for information on a Reserve Squadron a relation of mine (T.Capt. Robert R. Reeder, Manchester Reg, RFC) trained with. His records say after transfer to the RFC he went to Reading (on 18/9/16) then to Eygpt, Mid East Bgde (on 11/12/16), to 15 RS (on 15/4/17), finally to 53 Sq, France (on 25/4/17). Does anyone have any idea at what point and where he would have done his flying training? 10 days at 15 RS (I guess Reserve Squadron??) does not seem like enough time to get his wings so I assume he trained in Egypt? I'm guessing Reading would be in reference to No.1 School of Military Aeronautics so I would presume the next posting would be to a Training Squadron. I see that there were 7 training schools in Egypt in 1917, do any records of these exist? Any assistance would be most appreciated cheers! Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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