Nick Cooper Posted 17 March , 2009 Share Posted 17 March , 2009 Just a quick heads-up that this documentary on pilots Edward Mannock and James McCudden is scheduled for this coming weekend. BBC website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Armstrong Custer Posted 17 March , 2009 Share Posted 17 March , 2009 It promises to be a very good documentary indeed and the word is that it will be well worth watching. Despite the involvement of some nefarious characters in its making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 17 March , 2009 Share Posted 17 March , 2009 As well as him (!) look out for Dave Rowland, active member of WFA Heart of England Branch in Warwick and current Chair of the Royal Aeronautical Society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tafski Posted 17 March , 2009 Share Posted 17 March , 2009 also heard that soren of the forum will be on it doing some drawings tafski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick D Posted 17 March , 2009 Share Posted 17 March , 2009 Thanks for the early warning. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 18 March , 2009 Share Posted 18 March , 2009 Thanks for the alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT-Guards Posted 18 March , 2009 Share Posted 18 March , 2009 Cheers for that. Note to self - DONT FORGET! All the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Saunders Posted 18 March , 2009 Share Posted 18 March , 2009 also heard that soren of the forum will be on it doing some drawings tafski This is very much a Forum production! As well as art by Soren, Peter Hart adds some frank talking in his very own indomitable way and Freddy1918 adds some West End glamour (which both Jimmy and Mick would have approved of). It is directed by the Forum's John Hayes-Fisher, who had Paul Reed on his backroom team. Not to be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen p nunn Posted 18 March , 2009 Share Posted 18 March , 2009 I see from my TV guide that this Saturday's (21st March) edition on Timewatch on BBC2 is called 'WWI Aces Falling - The story of Edward Mannock and James McCudden. Looking forward to it. Some years back I came across an obscure reference to Mannock calling in to Goldhanger (near Maldon, Essex) aerodrome on 27/3/1918. He was a flight commander with 74 Squadron at the time and they were on their way to France. A note from him indicates that they went to Goldhanger at the last minute because "the big Hun attack". The bagadge had gone on to France and Mannock was cross, wanting to get off ASAP. Anyway they decided to kill time in the lical pub - the Goldhanger Chequers (which is still there). They had a good drink and started singing their "bawdy ballads". The local chief of the village (I think I know who that would have been) objected. Mannock told him to join in or step outside for a chat. The local chief started singing! 74 left Goldhanger on 30/3/18. Mannock was killed in the July. Enjoy the programme. Regards SPN Maldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmanuel bril Posted 18 March , 2009 Share Posted 18 March , 2009 Hello ,i think the result will be great .Many thanks to John and his team , Paul & Andy , and Robin Toplexil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 18 March , 2009 Share Posted 18 March , 2009 Argh! Bet no-one youtubes it Diane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Cooper Posted 19 March , 2009 Author Share Posted 19 March , 2009 Argh! Bet no-one youtubes it I'm sure if you ask nicely someone can arrange a DVD (or tape, if you prefer retro).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Roberts Posted 19 March , 2009 Share Posted 19 March , 2009 I guessed from the title that Peter H would be involved! If anyone can record it on DVD so that we can send it to our non-UK members, that would be great. I've only got the old-fashioned Videotape for recording. If I forget, I can see it on the Virginmedia On-Demand, but that is only available in the UK. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Starlight Posted 19 March , 2009 Share Posted 19 March , 2009 I don't doubt that it will hit one (or more) of those P2P sites in double time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmanuel bril Posted 19 March , 2009 Share Posted 19 March , 2009 Many thanks to John and his team , Andy & Paul , & Robin , i think that will be a fantastic report . Toplexil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIRKY Posted 20 March , 2009 Share Posted 20 March , 2009 To add to the list of helpers from the Forum, my wife supplied and mounted the medals for the production! Thanks for reference from Mr Reed! Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterlad2 Posted 21 March , 2009 Share Posted 21 March , 2009 The programme was excellent. Well done to the team that put it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 21 March , 2009 Share Posted 21 March , 2009 Unforgiveable. 55 minutes before Paul Reed appears. His solicitors will be in contact with the production team.... Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 21 March , 2009 Share Posted 21 March , 2009 I was very surprised to hear that McCudden had been refused as CO by 85 Squadron because he was a ranker and not ex-public school. Is the allegation true? Could a squadron "refuse" a CO that had been appointed to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobL Posted 21 March , 2009 Share Posted 21 March , 2009 Superb programme, as well as the red button 'extra' with some more SE5a action. Well done to those involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reed Posted 21 March , 2009 Share Posted 21 March , 2009 His solicitors will be in contact with the production team.... Steve. I can't sue myself, sadly. I was merely wardrobe lady, translator and tea boy on this occasion, and only an accidental tourist when it came to being on camera. John will be pleased that it appealed to some of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen White Posted 21 March , 2009 Share Posted 21 March , 2009 Very good, enjoyed it and learnt something as well, I knew very little about either man prior to the programme. I'll echo Phil_B's question could a squadron really refuse a CO? Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pighills Posted 21 March , 2009 Share Posted 21 March , 2009 Loved it! Very interesting, educational and as with all the deaths, a little weepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy1918 Posted 21 March , 2009 Share Posted 21 March , 2009 Re McCudden's rejection as CO: I don't think it was the done thing - but in this case I understand it was more a collective voicing of no enthusiasm from a group of pilots that - shall we say given the outgoing CO - were not receptive to a disciplinarian taking over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eveanne Posted 21 March , 2009 Share Posted 21 March , 2009 Enjoyed watching this remarkably revealing programme of these unsung heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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