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RNAS to RAF change in service number


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Please I need some advcie from the RNAS and RAF crew. When the RNAS became part of the RAF did the RNAS number change by adding numbers to replace the letter. For example

F4752 to become 204752

Question two why would the chaps victory medal be RNAS and the BWM numberd to the RAF?

cheers Gareth

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1) Yes, the RNAS numbers had 200000 added to them and the F was dropped. So F1 RNAS became 200001 RAF.

2) If he was issued with medals by both the Admiralty and the Air Ministry.

3) do you have his service records for RNAS & RAF? The RNAS service register is online; the RAF record for the example you gave should be in AIR 79/1844.

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Thanks Per Ardua... that helps a lot the medals are to a Harry Jones Served from 1915 on the Campania, Canning and Emperor of India. Ive had them years and only recently noticed the BWM and Victory had different numbers. Ive his RNAS service file but not the RAF. I started collecting RNAS RFC RAF medals but interest lay elsewhere so thought Id better check they are ok . Gareth

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The Admiralty would have issued the 1914/15 Star, if he had one it should be shown on the medal roll in ADM 171/107. They may have then issued the pair too (that should be recorded on the roll) if the instructions were unclear.

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Allocation of numbers to airmen

200001-202902 Transfers from RNAS (1914 entrants) Allocated April 1918

202903-210316 Transfers from RNAS (1915 entrants) Allocated April 1918

210317-225060 Transfers from RNAS (1916 entrants) Allocated April 1918

225061-244710 Transfers from RNAS (1917 entrants) Allocated April 1918

244711-260000 Transfers from RNAS (1918 entrants) Allocated April 1918

313001-316000 Transfers from RNAS - ex Royal Navy.

Mick

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Its a bit odd hes got a 15 star and star to the RNAS but the BWM has the 20*** number to the RAF.

You need to check his RAF service record, maybe its as simple as the RAF issued him with a replacement.

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313001-316000 Transfers from RNAS - ex Royal Navy.

Do you have the numbers for the Royal Marine transfers?

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No I don't but the number block 400000-410432 was issued in Sept 1918 to general transfers.

Mick

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I've heard that block was used for Territorial men. I have seen on service records men who were in the RFC being renumbered to the 400000 series after the formation of the RAF.

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I'm sure they would have done because that was quite a large block allocation. The 4 series block was used for-

410440-410999 Transfers Royal Corps Signals Oct 1939

411000-411220 Army transfers middle east June 1936

411221-411230 Navy transfers middle east Jan 1933

411231-411250 Jugoslav transfers from British Army Middle East March 1944

411300-411749 Army transfers RAF Regt instructors March 1937

412000-412999 Transfers from Navy March 1943

420000-499999 Various WAAF 1940-1947

I'm sure they made sense to someone.

Mick

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I have medals to a lieut in the RAF which consist of World War One medals and GSM bar Iraq these have RAF on them. He also had RNAS service and has a LS&GCM which has PO as his rank . He went from RNAS to RAF and was commissioned in the RAF when he left the RN. The service number no longer features in the RAF medals due to his commission but his RN medal still has full details on it.

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Thanks Mick, the transfers that I have seen were WWI entrants, I was recently looking through an AIR 79 file for numbers in the 99000 range and there were several men who had been renumbered to the 400000s.

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nemesis, do you have his service register entry for his time in the RN? His RAF record has probably not been transferred yet.

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nemesis, do you have his service register entry for his time in the RN? His RAF record has probably not been transferred yet.

Yes I have some paperwork on him

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