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These 2 men do not want to be identified but there names appear on different memorials.

The top link is to the steelworkers memorial at Glengarnock where the name Boyce Andrew Royal Scots is on there

The first photo is a close up of his name.

The second link is to to the Auld Kirk Memorial where the name John Barbour is on there

The second photo is a close up of his name

The third link is to the War Memorial where the two men are listed (Kilbirnie)

The last two photos are showing their names and regiments.

These are all linked to Kilbirnie and they are the only two men I cannot put a regimental number or date of death to and this is where I again pass it over to the experts on the forum to try and help me find these two men.

Andrew Boyce R.S. (May have Dalry, Ayrshire connections)

John Barbour R.S.F.

Can anyone help me to give these men a number and date of death please, I dont know where else I can search, I have tried everywhere. I live in hope that someone finds a snippet from somewhere I havent searched to find these men.

Kevin

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http://warmemscot.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic....orum=warmemscot

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These 2 men do not want to be identified but there names appear on different memorials.

The top link is to the steelworkers memorial at Glengarnock where the name Boyce Andrew Royal Scots is on there

The first photo is a close up of his name.

The second link is to to the Auld Kirk Memorial where the name John Barbour is on there

The second photo is a close up of his name

The third link is to the War Memorial where the two men are listed (Kilbirnie)

The last two photos are showing their names and regiments.

These are all linked to Kilbirnie and they are the only two men I cannot put a regimental number or date of death to and this is where I again pass it over to the experts on the forum to try and help me find these two men.

Andrew Boyce R.S. (May have Dalry, Ayrshire connections)

John Barbour R.S.F.

Can anyone help me to give these men a number and date of death please, I dont know where else I can search, I have tried everywhere. I live in hope that someone finds a snippet from somewhere I havent searched to find these men.

Kevin

Could John Barbour be this man of the Royal Scots (Royal Scots Fusiliers)?

Name: BARBOUR

Initials: J

Nationality: United Kingdom

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Royal Scots

Unit Text: 16th Bn.

Date of Death: 03/08/1916

Service No: 18968

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: VIII. B. 2.

Cemetery: FLATIRON COPSE CEMETERY, MAMETZ

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Kevin, Papers for a John Barbour on Ancestry number 110295 previously 1671 Royal Scots 3rd Batt, survived at least to 1919 according to the medical papers therein. Ralph.

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Couple of long shots

There is an Andrew Boyce labour corp, formerly Black Watch # 14481

Carfin St New Stevenson. Looks lke he survived.

Andrew Boyd born Kilbirnie # 281485 RE 25/6/1918

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Hi Kevin,

I am not sure if this will help. I came across a John Barbour who died age 43 in Kaimshill Sanatorium, Riccarton (near Ayr I think) of TB, on 14th January 1920. Interestingly his previous residence is given as Birkhill, Ladyland, Beith - A quick look at the map suggests this address is much closer to Kilbirnie than Beith.

It is just a thought but if this man contracted TB due to overseas service he may be commemorated on the Kilbirnie memorial but not be recognised by CWGC. I realise that this is a bit of guesswork but thought it worth a mention.

Best of luck with your project

Michael

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Michael, cheers for this, it does give me a new route to go down, fingers crossed and will keep you informed if you have found him,

Kevin

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Kevin

The problem with this theory is I am not sure where you go now. The death cert does not mention military service, and I don't think a service record is available. There appear to be 3 medal records for a John Barbour in the Royal Scots Fusiliers, one of these transferred to HLI so I guess this leaves two - no.7274 and 52722.

It is perhaps interesting that no. 7274 applied for a SWB and I guess it would be worth knowing if this was for sickness or wounds.

Hopefully someone can suggest a possible way forward. Perhaps Ayrshire newspapers may hold the key.

Best of Luck

Michael

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