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OK, on to the next family member. GU William John Shakespeare is the older brother of Jeffrey Robert (sig) who seems to have joined up after his death. I have his demob doc. He obviously survived as along the left side of it he enlisted again in 1923? These are the only details I have of him but this time I have a photo too ^_^ .

Any details of his service would be appreciated.

I know it will be deemed off topic but was there a skirmish around 1923?

Diane

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There is a pension record for him. His age is noted as 23 years 10 months. The document is dated 11 Dec 1915.

He lists his mother, Fanny, as next of kin.

He had a gun shot wound to his right thigh on 15 Sep 1917.

He joined up on 11 Dec 1915.

Went to Army Reserves 12 Dec 1915

Mobilized (Rejoined Colours) 17 Oct 1916

Transferred to Class "Z" 17 Mar 1919

His service is listed as:

Home 17-10-16 to 28-5-17

Expeditionary Force France 29-5-17 to 21-10-17

Home 22-10-17

As an aside, it also says he was 5ft 8in :)

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Thanks Orangeblossom. Would you be able to email the docs to me. If so I will PM you. I don't have his MIC either if any kind pal could post it I would be very grateful

Diane

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Pension records sometimes have details that can be accessed by going left as well as right from the index point.

As a Guardsman, he should have a full set of service records held by the Grenadier Guards Archivist, Wellington Barracks, Birdcage Walk.

Steve.

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Thanks for linking to their website Steve. I think I'll save my cents and write to them. At least that way I only have to tell the story once :lol: Hopefully will get a decent response

Diane

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The website isn't the link I was hoping for. Is there one specifically related to Grenadier Guards? My google attempts have only taken me to other forums.

Also would any kind soul please post up his MIC as I am not with NA. His Service No is 27196

Many thanks

Diane

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Thanks to Orangeblossom I now have GU Bill's Attestation Document, Pensioner Record Card, Medical Report, Descriptive Report and Statement of Service.

What I think may be missing is where he served and was wounded (GSW to right thigh) and I'm not too sure which Bn he was with.

Diane

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There is a pension record for him. His age is noted as 23 years 10 months. The document is dated 11 Dec 1915.

He lists his mother, Fanny, as next of kin.

He had a gun shot wound to his right thigh on 15 Sep 1917.

He joined up on 11 Dec 1915.

Went to Army Reserves 12 Dec 1915

Mobilized (Rejoined Colours) 17 Oct 1916

Transferred to Class "Z" 17 Mar 1919

His service is listed as:

Home 17-10-16 to 28-5-17

Expeditionary Force France 29-5-17 to 21-10-17

Home 22-10-17

As an aside, it also says he was 5ft 8in smile.gif

HI Any idea where Bill Shakespeare was in France or Belgium when he got the round through the thigh.

Hi Dianne

Paul

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William Shakespeare was in 4th Bn. Grenadier Guards.

On 15.9.1917 the Bn. was at Charterhouse Camp B9C. The war diary recorded - 3 men wounded on fatigue last night. Weather fine.

The casualties were named as - 27459 Pte. Mancy A.

27598 " Rayner A.

27196 " Shakespear W.

B9C I think was somewhere west of Ypres. Maybe Vlamertinghe area? Someone will know. Where exactly William Shakespeare was working when he was wounded is unknown.

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William Shakespeare was in 4th Bn. Grenadier Guards.

On 15.9.1917 the Bn. was at Charterhouse Camp B9C. The war diary recorded - 3 men wounded on fatigue last night. Weather fine.

The casualties were named as - 27459 Pte. Mancy A.

27598 " Rayner A.

27196 " Shakespear W.

B9C I think was somewhere west of Ypres. Maybe Vlamertinghe area? Someone will know. Where exactly William Shakespeare was working when he was wounded is unknown.

Fantastic start, many thanks.

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Charterhouse Camp at B9c was on the northern outskirts of Elverdinghe.

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