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George William Howard was a Skipper with the Royal Naval Reserve and died on 2/2/1918. Does anyone know if he was born at Maldon, Essex?

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ADM240 at Kew will assist you in finding his service file,the info will be there. There is a process of tracing his name from a microfilm which will then direct you to his record. You can't,as far as I know,do it online.

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ADM240 at Kew will assist you in finding his service file,the info will be there. There is a process of tracing his name from a microfilm which will then direct you to his record. You can't,as far as I know,do it online.

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Many thanks for this helpful advice - really good of you. I don't really get the chance to travel to Kew nowadays but I will see what services they offer to persue this one.

Regards.

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Many thanks for this helpful advice - really good of you. I don't really get the chance to travel to Kew nowadays but I will see what services they offer to persue this one.

Regards.

SPN.

I forgot to mention that the details I have on him so far are as follows:

George William Howard. "TY Skipper" Royal Naval Reserve. HM Trawler 'Remindo'. Died 2/2/1918. On Chatham Naval Memorial. I believe the Remindo was of 256 tons and was lost off Portland, sunk by an explosion. I think people have been diving on it? The reason I believe this man to be the one of Maldon's memorial is that the Howard family were local river people/boat builders. If it is him then I have his full story up to his death (born 15/2/1879, his parents, his work etc). In addition, there is another man on the memorial (Arthur George Wright) who was definitely from Maldon and was a Deck Hand on Remindo. Howard seems to have been added to the memorial (out of sequence) as an afterthought and I would love to bring him back to life through this level of positive identification.

Any help greatfully received.

Regards.

SPN.

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I've seen documents at TNA on the Remindo - among the documents I remember seeing a letter edged in black from the parents of one of the crew asking the Admiralty 'if there is any news of our dear only son.' It was indeed a very sad letter. Some other research I carried out indicated the Remindo was lost somewhere mid Channel, further offshore than first supposed at the time. I've had a look through my notebooks and found the reference ADM1 8514/48. I can't remember what else was in the file and I don't suppose there's anything there about where George Howard was born, but you might find something there of further interest.

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I've seen documents at TNA on the Remindo - among the documents I remember seeing a letter edged in black from the parents of one of the crew asking the Admiralty 'if there is any news of our dear only son.' It was indeed a very sad letter. Some other research I carried out indicated the Remindo was lost somewhere mid Channel, further offshore than first supposed at the time. I've had a look through my notebooks and found the reference ADM1 8514/48. I can't remember what else was in the file and I don't suppose there's anything there about where George Howard was born, but you might find something there of further interest.

Dave W

Thanks for the reference Dave - really fascinating. Do you think a service record exists and would that help? Also are there medal cards for these personnel?

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Hello SPN,

As you probably know Remindo was a former Grimsby trawler, do you know if your George William Howard had any other connections with Grimsby? Long shot but I'm thinking possible sea fishing apprentice - there is are several named Howard listed in the index to the registers.

Cheers, Terry

H.M. Trawler Remindo Admirality No. 3065. (O.N. 139957)

258 gt. 120.5ft x 22ft. 1 x 12 pdr.

Built 1917 by Cook, Welton & Gemmell at Beverley for G. F. Sleight, Grimsby.

10/1917 registered Remindo GY 1089. (G.F. Sleight)

Sept. 1917 Requisitioned by the Royal Navy as an anti-submarine vessel and

fitted with hydrophone equipment for submarine detection.

1st Feb. missing presumed mined and lost with all hands.

Claimed by the Germans post-war to have been torpedoed UC 79 on the French side of the Channel.

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Hello SPN,

As you probably know Remindo was a former Grimsby trawler, do you know if your George William Howard had any other connections with Grimsby? Long shot but I'm thinking possible sea fishing apprentice - there is are several named Howard listed in the index to the registers.

Cheers, Terry

H.M. Trawler Remindo Admirality No. 3065. (O.N. 139957)

258 gt. 120.5ft x 22ft. 1 x 12 pdr.

Built 1917 by Cook, Welton & Gemmell at Beverley for G. F. Sleight, Grimsby.

10/1917 registered Remindo GY 1089. (G.F. Sleight)

Sept. 1917 Requisitioned by the Royal Navy as an anti-submarine vessel and

fitted with hydrophone equipment for submarine detection.

1st Feb. missing presumed mined and lost with all hands.

Claimed by the Germans post-war to have been torpedoed UC 79 on the French side of the Channel.

Thanks Terry - this is great stuff. What I know about my George William Howard so far is that he was born in Maldon on 15/2/1879 to William Howard (a shipwright) and Mary Ann (nee Hicks). In 1881 he was staying with his mum's family who had a pub in Maldon. Then his dad died in 1890 and in 1891 he was living with his widowed mum and 2 brothers at 196 High Street. In 1901 he was a mate on sailing barge 'Thistle' at Millwall Dock. I can't yet track him down in 1911 but am trying. I think this man desparately wants to be the Remindo skipper!

Regards.

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Thanks Terry - this is great stuff. What I know about my George William Howard so far is that he was born in Maldon on 15/2/1879 to William Howard (a shipwright) and Mary Ann (nee Hicks). In 1881 he was staying with his mum's family who had a pub in Maldon. Then his dad died in 1890 and in 1891 he was living with his widowed mum and 2 brothers at 196 High Street. In 1901 he was a mate on sailing barge 'Thistle' at Millwall Dock. I can't yet track him down in 1911 but am trying. I think this man desparately wants to be the Remindo skipper!

Regards.

SPN.

There is a George William Howard who in 1911 was at Devonport with some HM vessels but the dob is slightly out - it says he was then 36.

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ADM240 at Kew will assist you in finding his service file,the info will be there.

Unfortunately, the information will not be in this class of records as it relates to commissioned officers.

RNR skippers were warrant officers and so the relevent records are BT 377/7 Service Record Cards (microfiche copies). Howard's service nuber can be found from BT 377/3 Alphabetical indexes to service numbers (microfilm copies): G-L 1908 Jan 01 - 1955 Dec 31 on microfilm, both of these are at Kew. The original Service Record Cards are at the Fleet Air Arm Museum, if you can get there. If not you could request a look up on the forum.

The Service Record Cards with give youthe man's place and date of birth, plus his address; as well as the Christian names of both his parents. So that will confirm he is the riight man and if he had a connection with Maldon.

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Unfortunately, the information will not be in this class of records as it relates to commissioned officers.

RNR skippers were warrant officers and so the relevent records are BT 377/7 Service Record Cards (microfiche copies). Howard's service nuber can be found from BT 377/3 Alphabetical indexes to service numbers (microfilm copies): G-L 1908 Jan 01 - 1955 Dec 31 on microfilm, both of these are at Kew. The original Service Record Cards are at the Fleet Air Arm Museum, if you can get there. If not you could request a look up on the forum.

The Service Record Cards with give youthe man's place and date of birth, plus his address; as well as the Christian names of both his parents. So that will confirm he is the riight man and if he had a connection with Maldon.

Thanks - this is really helpful. No, I am a long way from the Fleet Air Arm Museum, but the look up idea is good. Sorry to be a pain but as I am new can you tell me how I do that please?

Thanks everso.

SPN.

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Many thanks. I had another reply (in my email box) and have now emailed the Fleet Air Arm Museum. I hope they will be willing to help but if not will go to the look-up idea.

Best regards and thanks for your support.

SPN.

Had a digital image sent to me from the National Archives today. I wanted it to evidence a Maldon link with Howard. Unfortunately it didn't. It was a copy of a telegram confirming the loss of the Remindo and listing the crew (by name only) and their pay. Haven't had a reply from the Fleet Air Arm Museum yet re. the service record. I think that is my last hope.

Regards to all.

SPN.

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Had a digital image sent to me from the National Archives today. I wanted it to evidence a Maldon link with Howard. Unfortunately it didn't. It was a copy of a telegram confirming the loss of the Remindo and listing the crew (by name only) and their pay. Haven't had a reply from the Fleet Air Arm Museum yet re. the service record. I think that is my last hope.

Regards to all.

SPN.

Another thing to add is that, amongst the other men on the town memorial is one Arthur George WRIGHT who was definitely a Deck Hand (16945DA) on Remindo and definitely from Maldon. Strange coincidence?

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FAA have just confirmed they have a George William Howard, born Maldon 1877, Second Hand RNR Trawler Section. My man was actually Ty Skipper and his DoB was 15/2/1879. Do readers of this forum think that is him?

Thanks all.

SPN.

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FAA have just confirmed they have a George William Howard, born Maldon 1877, Second Hand RNR Trawler Section. My man was actually Ty Skipper and his DoB was 15/2/1879. Do readers of this forum think that is him?

Thanks all.

SPN.

Sorry - just had confirmation that the FAA service number matches - it's him. We have our man! Thanks to all for your support.

Regards.

SPN.

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  • 4 years later...

Remembering the crew of Remindo today Lost on this day in 1918 with all hands.

SPN

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