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Hello All,

is it possible to find out the date a man was wounded, even if his service records are not there? (are all the surviving service records now on Ancestry?)

Thanks,

Bill.

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Hi Bill,

this opens a fair bit of scope with little or no other information. You could look into relevant actions undertaken by the unit, brigade, division etc and some woundings would have happened behind the lines as well. Not much help I suppose but you just don't know what might turn up during your research. Do you have a particular chap you are researching? As for Ancestry, I'm not quite sure on that one as I don't subscribe to it but I'm sure someone will come along with that answer.

Cheers,

David

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Bill

Post all the details you have on the man here,if you wish. Miracles happen,as you will see from a few reads here and there !

Sotonmate

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The man i am researching is 24/1430 Private Arthur McAvoy, Northumberland Fusiliers, who died of wounds 2/7/16, i am trying to establish if he was wounded on the 1st.

Bill.

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Hi,

I have had papers from the NA before which are not on Ancestry, so as far as I can see, Ancestry only have the burnt records and the Pension files. They don't seem to have any of the Officers papers either. I don't know if there are plans to put the others on or not though?

Steve J.

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The Times online lists the majority of wounded soldiers but I dont believe it will tell you the exact date.

If your lucky a relative may of written to the local press to inform others of this mans wound.

Ancestry hasnt made any updates to the burnt series in two months, not sure what it happening with them? So far they are up to the letter N.

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Thanks to everyone, i have scoured the local paper, have only managed to find an In Memorium reference from his wife, 12 months after he died.

Bill.

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This from Ancestry itself. They suggest they have more than just the Burnt records, but have no officer records.

"About British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920

This database contains the surviving service records of non-commissioned officers and other ranks who served in WWI and did not re-enlist in the Army prior to World War II. With the latest release, this database now contains records for surnames beginning A-N. The type of information contained in these records includes: name of solider, age, birthplace, occupation, marital status, and regiment number."

Andrew

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but have no officer records.

Correct. The officer files are the paper originals and are at the National Archives. All have been "weeded" over the years and the papers remaining are very variable. In quite a number of cases I have been unable to find files at all.

John

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24th Northumberland Fusiliers attacked on 1st July 16. In John Sheen's book "Tyneside Irish" he is listed as A Company, D of W 2/7/16, buried at Heilly Station Cemetery. Since this was very close to the battlefield and most Clearing Stations were cleared before the battle in anticipation of the wounded coming in it seems highly likely he was wounded on 1st July or very shortly before that.

Richard

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You are never really going to confirm when he was wounded unless there is a specific entry for him in the very few surviving sample records of Casualty Clearing Stations (MH106 at Kew). He could equally have DoW in a Field Ambulance etc.

The War Diary is unlikely to list his name as he was an OR. You might get an idea of where woundings occurred but the date might be difficult to tie down as in some units there were (un-named) woundings even if attacks weren't going in.

If you want some info on the attack of the 1 July PM me with your e-mail and I will send a couple of items on the 24 NF role in the attack.

Sotonmate

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