jones31 Posted 28 January , 2009 Share Posted 28 January , 2009 Sorry to be so uninformed and in such a hurry but can anyone offer details of this man? I believe he was a student teacher who joined up in 1914 and served in Sulva Bay, Gallipoli (where he was wounded) and in Palestine where he died. I know he is buried in Beersheba but his body may have been moved there from Egypt. Please help if you can. Thank you for taking the trouble to read this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 28 January , 2009 Share Posted 28 January , 2009 Presumably this is our man? Name: JONES, JAMES Initials: J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Corporal Regiment/Service: Royal Welsh Fusiliers Unit Text: 1st/7th Bn. Age: 21 Date of Death: 11/11/1917 Service No: 290855 Additional information: Son of Edwin and Mary Jones, of The Belan, Guilsfield, Welshpool. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: P. 54. Cemetery: BEERSHEBA WAR CEMETERY http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_detail...casualty=644762 Details for Soldier Died in the Great War: Name: James Jones Birth Place: Guilsfield, Mont. Enlisted at: Welshpool, Mont. Death Date: 11 Nov 1917 Rank: A/Corporal Regiment: Royal Welsh Fusiliers Battalion: 7th Battalion. Number: 290855 Type of Casualty: Died of wounds Theater of War: Palestine Considering that the 1/7th RWF took part in the Battle of Beersheba as part of 158th Brigade of the 53rd (Welsh) Division, on 31-10-1917, then he is likely buried not far from the place that he fell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Beersheba He did indeed serve at Gallipoli, as eveidenced by his Medal Index Card: Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted 28 January , 2009 Share Posted 28 January , 2009 Try looking on this link for the CWGC site it should help until someone better with computers comes along..http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=644762.. JIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 28 January , 2009 Share Posted 28 January , 2009 He has a 32 page service file on Ancestry.co.uk. Index entries: Name: James Jones Age: 18 Birth Year: abt 1896 Birth Parish: Guilsfield Birth County: Montgomery Regiment Name: Bn RW Fus Regiment Number: 3338 Document Year: 1914 Number of Images: 32 Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaywalker Posted 28 January , 2009 Share Posted 28 January , 2009 Could someone please try and explain to me how to print the SDGW page or indeed the CWGC page onto these replies. I would really like to try and help with other peoples queries rather than continually ask questions myself, but lack the knowledge how to.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted 28 January , 2009 Share Posted 28 January , 2009 Details from CWGC as per Jim's link Name: JONES, JAMES Initials: J Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Corporal Regiment/Service: Royal Welsh Fusiliers Unit Text: 1st/7th Bn. Age: 21 Date of Death: 11/11/1917 Service No: 290855 Additional information: Son of Edwin and Mary Jones, of The Belan, Guilsfield, Welshpool. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: P. 54. Cemetery: BEERSHEBA WAR CEMETERY Extra info from SDGW: Born: Guilsford Enlisted:Welshpool Died of wounds, Egypt HTH Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsA Posted 28 January , 2009 Share Posted 28 January , 2009 I would think he was wounded in the third battle of Gaza, when the 1/7th attacked and captured Khuweilfeh Hill, not far from Beersheba on the 7/8 november 1917. /Lars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 28 January , 2009 Share Posted 28 January , 2009 Although the file seems incomplete (there are often bits missing from these files), the following is a summary of what is there: Born at Guilsfield, Montgomeryshire. A school teacher prior to enlisting. Enlisted at Welshpool, age 18 years, 21-11-1914 Posted to 7th Bn. Royal Welsh Fusiliers, No. 3338 Volunteered for overseas service by signing the Imperial Service Obligation at Aberystwith on 15-12-1914 Posted to 1/7th Bn. Royal Welsh Fusiliers, 30-1-1915 (probably due to the splitting of the battalion betweem Overseas & Home Service soldiers) Embarked to Gallipoli, 17-7-1915 Arrived at Gallipoli, 8-8-1915 Disembarked at Suvla Bay, 9-8-1915 Arrived back in England, 23-8-1915 Admitted to Netley Hospital, Hampshire, GSW chest, 23-8-1915 to 3-9-1915 (12 days in hospital - treated for four wounds on the left thorax - "healed perfectly". Recommended for light duties by a Japanese Dr. whose name I can't make out) Posted to 3/7th Battalion, 23-9-1915 Appointed as acting Lance-Corporal, 8-4-1916 Posted to 1/7th battalion RWF, 6-10-1916 Embarked back to Egypt, 6-10-1916 Rejoined from 1/5th ??????, 19-12-1916 Appointed as acting Corporal, ????? Renumbered as 290855, Royal Welsh Fusiliers Died of wounds received in action (acting Corporal), 11-11-1917 Next of kin: Parents - Edwin and Mary Jones, Blacksmith, The Smithy, Guilsfield, Welshpool. Also details of brothers (2, in in Australia) and sisters (5) There are various other bits and pieces realting to receipt of meadls, memorial scroll, etc. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive_hughes Posted 29 January , 2009 Share Posted 29 January , 2009 1/7th (Montgomeryshire & Merionethshire) Battalion RWF (TF) His Medal Card shows that his previous regimental number was 3338, and that he first entered a Theatre of War ("Balkans") on 8 August 1915. All this means in reality was that he served in the Gallipoli campaign. He was a Private at that time, but later rose to be Acting Corporal. He earned the 1914-15 Star, War and Victory Medals, and the card confirms he DOW on 11 Nov 1917. This was presumably following the 3rd Gaza/Beersheba battles. His number would have changed at the start of 1917 to a series commencing with 290001 for the 7th RWF. Local newspapers (Guilsfield/Welshpool) for the early War period would possibly mention his enlistment; likewise after his death an obituary might have been printed. LST_164 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsA Posted 29 January , 2009 Share Posted 29 January , 2009 Also discussed here http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/i...;hl=james+jones , perhaps a merger is in order? /Lars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive_hughes Posted 29 January , 2009 Share Posted 29 January , 2009 Lars, didn't see the other thread! Thanks for letting me know the rest of the research was there. LST_164 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones31 Posted 30 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 30 January , 2009 Fantastic! Thank you all very much. Any reason why James' sister might have been convinced his body was buried twice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones31 Posted 30 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 30 January , 2009 Thank you all for contributing. Please accept apologies if double request offended anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinglma Posted 30 January , 2009 Share Posted 30 January , 2009 Fantastic! Thank you all very much. Any reason why James' sister might have been convinced his body was buried twice? Yes - The vast majority of graves in Beersheba War Cemetery were created after the Armistice for those brought in from battlefield graves and smaller burial sites. See the CWGC Cemetery description here. Regards Mike S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltaxman Posted 30 January , 2009 Share Posted 30 January , 2009 I've taken the liberty of merging the 2 topics (just in case anyone got confused ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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