Peter Bennett Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 I was kindly sent this photo from The Isle of Arran. CWGC show date of death 21/12/1916 as below; Name: BOLAND, PATRICK Initials: P J Nationality: Canadian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Newfoundland Regiment Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Date of Death: 21/12/1916 Service No: 1601 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: In North-West corner of new ground. Cemetery: SANNOX OLD CHURCHYARD, KILBRIDE Grave photo shows 16/05/1916 as below, also what is his second christian name ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 Cannot find him on SDGW(Edit: As the SDGW does not cover Canadians, please ignore) and MIC gives no further info. Regards, Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 From: http://www.nfarchives.net/ Regiment: Royal Newfoundland Regiment Regimental Number: 1601 Name and Rank: PTE BOLAND, Patrick J Draft: 6 Enlist Date: 6/2/1915 Age on enlistment: 32 Date of Death: 12/21/1916 Address: Halifax, Nova Scotia Service Record: NR Additional Links: For more information, perform a search of this record on the Canadian Virtual War Memorial. "NR" indicates not recorded. Additional details to be added later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonmaid Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/content/collectio.../newf/nf015.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 26 January , 2009 Share Posted 26 January , 2009 The original register agrees with the online record. I'll check the details with CWGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejcmartin Posted 28 January , 2009 Share Posted 28 January , 2009 According to the Newfoundland "Daily News" Pte Boland (sorry no idea on the J., but with a name like Patrick Boland I would guess a good saint name like Joseph) drowned in December, 1916 not specific day given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Denham Posted 4 February , 2009 Share Posted 4 February , 2009 CWGC records state “Believed fallen into Ayr Harbour, 16/05/1916, washed ashore at Sannox Bay 21/12/1916.” Therefore, they have amended the record thus... Name: BOLAND, PATRICK Initials: P J Nationality: Canadian Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Newfoundland Regiment Unit Text: 2nd Bn. Date of Death: between 16/05/1916 and 21/12/1916 Service No: 1601 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: In North-West corner of new ground. Cemetery: SANNOX OLD CHURCHYARD, KILBRIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard2250 Posted 4 June , 2009 Share Posted 4 June , 2009 Patrick J. Boland...#1601 was somehow related to my family. As close as I can tell he was a cousin. As for his date of death, all can can say for sure is that he was posted officially to Addington Hospital on September 2, 1916. He was originally in G Company; 1st Nfld Regiment; Gailes Camp, Scotland. As for the 'J' in his middle name, the only reference I can find to Patrick J is a Patrick Joseph Boland who was a sponser at one of my distant relative's baptism. Hope this helps. Shawn Boland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 5 June , 2009 Author Share Posted 5 June , 2009 Patrick J. Boland...#1601 was somehow related to my family. As close as I can tell he was a cousin. As for his date of death, all can can say for sure is that he was posted officially to Addington Hospital on September 2, 1916. He was originally in G Company; 1st Nfld Regiment; Gailes Camp, Scotland. As for the 'J' in his middle name, the only reference I can find to Patrick J is a Patrick Joseph Boland who was a sponser at one of my distant relative's baptism. Hope this helps. Shawn Boland Shawn Thank you for this information. If he was posted to Addington Hospital in September 1916 and yet he was believed to have fallen into Ayr harbour four months earlier there is a discrepancy in the information somewhere. Do you have a copy of this September posting. Regards Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard2250 Posted 6 June , 2009 Share Posted 6 June , 2009 My information came from his uncle ( my great-grandfather) who saw all messages sent to Pat's father-Michael J. Boland. He was a man who kept notes on all things related to the war as he had two sons and a nephew enlisted. I will look for more details in his notebooks which I have scanned and will let you know if more are found. I still, after all this time, have trouble figuring some of the script used by people in the early 1900's. thanks, shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard2250 Posted 7 June , 2009 Share Posted 7 June , 2009 Attached is one page from the diaries I mentioned which show that Pat was alive in mid-1916. Maybe someone can access an archive of Addington or Stobhill Hospital. My question is why he makes references to Motgomerie when the name Haig appears more often in letters home ( to my family ). Any answers are greatly appreciated. thanks, shawn (who is already addicted to this site!) You can see page two on the next post as I am not sure how to upload properly. Page Two thanks, shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Johnson Posted 10 June , 2009 Share Posted 10 June , 2009 I still, after all this time, have trouble figuring some of the script used by people in the early 1900's. Shawn, I have the same problem, complicated by the fact that my grandfather's and great-uncle's records and letters are in French! And French orthography is something completely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard2250 Posted 10 June , 2009 Share Posted 10 June , 2009 Shawn, I have the same problem, complicated by the fact that my grandfather's and great-uncle's records and letters are in French! And French orthography is something completely different. I had the luck of a visiting German professor who was kind enough to decipher some of the old documents. Maybe you could seek out such a person at a local university. thanks, shawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piorun Posted 11 July , 2009 Share Posted 11 July , 2009 As Shawn (Wizard) now knows, Patrick J. Boland was last seen alive by his own cousin in Ayr in mid-November 1916. He expressed the intention of going to Glasgow to finish his sick leave which expired on November 23rd. His body was found some five weeks later on December 21st on the shore at Corrie, Isle of Arran, close to the place of his burial in Sannox. CWGC should be asked to amend their obviously mistaken record as there is ample written evidence of Pte. Boland's whereabouts between May (the supposed date of his death) and November 1916, including Scottish General Hospital 3 or 4 at Stobhill and at Addington Park Typhoid War Hospital in Surrey. MODS: this subject is being well covered in another thread under 'Documents' sub-forum 'Interpreting Service Records, etc'. Perhaps this or that thread should be terminated and/or relocated. Yours, Antony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 7 October , 2021 Share Posted 7 October , 2021 Rather late but maybe someone is following/monitoring this topic. I've attached a copy of the entry for his death in the SDI for Brodick on the Island of Arran. Following Scottish legal practice. As the actual date of death is not known it is recorded as the date/time he was found together with an amplification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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