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Pte Patrick Boland. Newfoundland Regiment


Peter Bennett

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I was kindly sent this photo from The Isle of Arran.

CWGC show date of death 21/12/1916 as below;

Name: BOLAND, PATRICK

Initials: P J

Nationality: Canadian

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Newfoundland Regiment

Unit Text: 2nd Bn.

Date of Death: 21/12/1916

Service No: 1601

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: In North-West corner of new ground.

Cemetery: SANNOX OLD CHURCHYARD, KILBRIDE

Grave photo shows 16/05/1916 as below, also what is his second christian name ?

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From:

http://www.nfarchives.net/

Regiment: Royal Newfoundland Regiment

Regimental Number: 1601

Name and Rank: PTE BOLAND, Patrick J

Draft: 6

Enlist Date: 6/2/1915

Age on enlistment: 32

Date of Death: 12/21/1916

Address: Halifax, Nova Scotia

Service Record: NR

Additional Links: For more information, perform a search of this record on the Canadian Virtual War Memorial.

"NR" indicates not recorded. Additional details to be added later.

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According to the Newfoundland "Daily News" Pte Boland (sorry no idea on the J., but with a name like Patrick Boland I would guess a good saint name like Joseph) drowned in December, 1916 not specific day given.

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CWGC records state “Believed fallen into Ayr Harbour, 16/05/1916, washed ashore at Sannox Bay 21/12/1916.”

Therefore, they have amended the record thus...

Name: BOLAND, PATRICK

Initials: P J

Nationality: Canadian

Rank: Private

Regiment/Service: Newfoundland Regiment

Unit Text: 2nd Bn.

Date of Death: between 16/05/1916 and 21/12/1916

Service No: 1601

Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead

Grave/Memorial Reference: In North-West corner of new ground.

Cemetery: SANNOX OLD CHURCHYARD, KILBRIDE

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  • 4 months later...

Patrick J. Boland...#1601 was somehow related to my family. As close as I can tell he was a cousin. As for his date of death, all can can say for sure is that he was posted officially to Addington Hospital on September 2, 1916. He was originally in G Company; 1st Nfld Regiment; Gailes Camp, Scotland. As for the 'J' in his middle name, the only reference I can find to Patrick J is a Patrick Joseph Boland who was a sponser at one of my distant relative's baptism. Hope this helps.

Shawn Boland

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Patrick J. Boland...#1601 was somehow related to my family. As close as I can tell he was a cousin. As for his date of death, all can can say for sure is that he was posted officially to Addington Hospital on September 2, 1916. He was originally in G Company; 1st Nfld Regiment; Gailes Camp, Scotland. As for the 'J' in his middle name, the only reference I can find to Patrick J is a Patrick Joseph Boland who was a sponser at one of my distant relative's baptism. Hope this helps.

Shawn Boland

Shawn

Thank you for this information. If he was posted to Addington Hospital in September 1916 and yet he was believed to have fallen into Ayr harbour four months earlier there is a discrepancy in the information somewhere.

Do you have a copy of this September posting.

Regards

Peter

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My information came from his uncle ( my great-grandfather) who saw all messages sent to Pat's father-Michael J. Boland. He was a man who kept notes on all things related to the war as he had two sons and a nephew enlisted. I will look for more details in his notebooks which I have scanned and will let you know if more are found. I still, after all this time, have trouble figuring some of the script used by people in the early 1900's.

thanks,

shawn

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Attached is one page from the diaries I mentioned which show that Pat was alive in mid-1916. Maybe someone can access an archive of Addington or Stobhill Hospital. My question is why he makes references to Motgomerie when the name Haig appears more often in letters home ( to my family ). Any answers are greatly appreciated.

thanks,

shawn (who is already addicted to this site!)

You can see page two on the next post as I am not sure how to upload properly.

Page Two

thanks,

shawn

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I still, after all this time, have trouble figuring some of the script used by people in the early 1900's.

Shawn, I have the same problem, complicated by the fact that my grandfather's and great-uncle's records and letters are in French! And French orthography is something completely different.

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Shawn, I have the same problem, complicated by the fact that my grandfather's and great-uncle's records and letters are in French! And French orthography is something completely different.

I had the luck of a visiting German professor who was kind enough to decipher some of the old documents. Maybe you could seek out such a person at a local university.

thanks,

shawn

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As Shawn (Wizard) now knows, Patrick J. Boland was last seen alive by his own cousin in Ayr in mid-November 1916. He expressed the intention of going to Glasgow to finish his sick leave which expired on November 23rd. His body was found some five weeks later on December 21st on the shore at Corrie, Isle of Arran, close to the place of his burial in Sannox.

CWGC should be asked to amend their obviously mistaken record as there is ample written evidence of Pte. Boland's whereabouts between May (the supposed date of his death) and November 1916, including Scottish General Hospital 3 or 4 at Stobhill and at Addington Park Typhoid War Hospital in Surrey.

MODS: this subject is being well covered in another thread under 'Documents' sub-forum 'Interpreting Service Records, etc'. Perhaps this or that thread should be terminated and/or relocated. Yours, Antony

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  • 12 years later...

Rather late but maybe someone is following/monitoring this topic.  I've attached a copy of the entry for his death in the SDI for Brodick on the Island of Arran. Following Scottish legal practice. As the actual date of death is not known it is recorded as the date/time he was found together with an amplification.42622713_BolandPatJ-d16.11-21_12.1916Arran(3).jpg.e784ab8a66c7758697eb5fe95e70ab04.jpg

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