MotherMave Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 Dear Forum, You were all very helpful, especially Desmond, on identifying a badge and uniform before, but would like you to look at a new photo of the same soldier, but this time his stripes are visible. Thank you all in anticipation, and thank you Desmond, I have at last learned how to put a photo on the Forum! MotherMave ADMIN EDIT - Images cropped to allow easier viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Doyle Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 Nice pictures, especially because the middle one shows him wearing a wristwatch and ID bracelet (privately purchased) on his wrists. The Stripe on his left arm is a good conduct badge (for two years good service), and the vertical one is a wound stripe - granted for each wound received. I would say that his rank was that of 'Sapper', the ordinary rank of the average soldier in the Royal Engineers Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 Hi MotherMave I would say Royal Engineers, but I am usually wrong with these so don't bet on it Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 not 'for each wound received' but for 'each occasion wounded', including gassing, enemy narbed wire etc. A Captain of 2nd RWF received 18 MG bullet wounds on one occasion and survived. He received one badge, not 18 !!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotherMave Posted 25 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2009 Thanks to Peter Doyle, Skipman and Grumpy for their swift replies, you will make my friend very happy as she will know a little bit more about her Father. This Forum is wonderful. MotherMave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 Mave If this is your man Medal card of Bettany, Morty Corps Regiment No Rank Royal Engineers T 2039 Sapper Royal Engineers 486594 Sapper then he would have served with the 1st North Midlands Field Company. They were allocated the block 486001 - 488000 in the early 1917 renumbering of the TF and became the 465th Field Company in February 1917. His unit served with the 28th Division from December 1914 to April 1915 and then the 46th Division from May 1915 for the rest of the war. Check out the Divisions on the LLT here: http://www.1914-1918.net/28div.htm and here http://www.1914-1918.net/46div.htm Regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Doyle Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 not 'for each wound received' but for 'each occasion wounded', including gassing, enemy narbed wire etc. A Captain of 2nd RWF received 18 MG bullet wounds on one occasion and survived. He received one badge, not 18 !!!!!!! You have to be careful on this forum - one slip of the finger, and... You are quite right, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 Mave The MIC confirms entitlement to the BWM and Victory so he would have arrived in France at some point in 1916 or possibly very early in 1917. Regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 Mave This from the reubique website: 465th (North Midland) Field Company Royal Engineers Major Headquarters Location Dates Home 46th Division Mobilized at Derby Aug 1914 46th Division Luton, Bedfordshire and Bishop’s Stortford, Herts Sep 1914 – Jan 1915 46th Division Embarked for France Feb 1915 France and Flanders 46th Division In reserve at Neuve Chapelle 12-13 Mar 1915 46th Division Ploegsteert, Kemmel, Neuve Eglise and Hill 60 Apr – Sep 1915 46th Division Bethune 13 Oct 1915 46th Division The Quarries and Fosse 8 Nov 1915 – Jan 1916 46th Division Vimy Ridge Feb 1916 46th Division Gommecourt 1 Jul 1916 46th Division Rettemoy Graben 13 Mar 1917 46th Division Lens, Cite St. Edward, Cite St. Theodore, Cite Jeanne d’Arc, Cite de Riaumont, Bois de Lievin, Bois de Riaumont, and Hill 65 Mar – Jun 1917 46th Division Hill 70 15-25 Aug 1917 46th Division St. Quentin Canal 29 Sep – 2 Oct 1918 46th Division Bellenglise 29 Sep 1918 46th Division Beaurevoir 3-5 Oct 1918 46th Division Ramicourt 3 Oct 1918 46th Division Cambrai 8-9 Oct 1918 46th Division Bois de Riquerval and Andigny les Fermes 10-17 Oct 1918 46th Division Selle 17-25 Oct 1918 46th Division Bohain 31 Oct 1918 46th Division Catillon 3 Nov 1918 46th Division Sambre 4 Nov 1918 46th Division Bois de L’Abbaye 5 Nov 1918 46th Division Prisches – Cartignies Road 7 Nov 1918 46th Division Petite Helpe River 9 Nov 1918 REFERENCES: Battle Honours of the Royal Engineers. The Royal Engineers Journal. The Institution of Royal Engineers, Chatham, Kent, 1925-1932. PRIESTLEY, R.E. Breaking the Hindenburg Line: The Story of the 46th (North Midland) Division. T. Fisher Unwin, Ltd., London, 1919. http://www.reubique.com/battle.htm Regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotherMave Posted 25 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 25 January , 2009 Oh my God!!!! What wonderful news, thanks to everyone, but special thanks to Mel, for all the info. regarding Monty's company and where in the theatre of war his Regiment was and when. I am always telling people what a great forum this is and once more you have proved me right. Thanks so much. Mave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 25 January , 2009 Share Posted 25 January , 2009 Mave If your friend would like to push the research a little further then the 465th Field Company War Diary is available at the NA: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalog...p;CATID=5637010 It is possible to order copying on line or it may be cheaper to commission a researcher to take digital copies with a camera. Regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 26 January , 2009 Share Posted 26 January , 2009 You have to be careful on this forum - one slip of the finger, and... You are quite right, of course Just the Pedants' Police on duty, watching, waiting ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Doyle Posted 26 January , 2009 Share Posted 26 January , 2009 I must admit, I've never seen pedantry as a virtue, but there you are. As I said, you were correct... Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 26 January , 2009 Share Posted 26 January , 2009 I must admit, I've never seen pedantry as a virtue, but there you are. As I said, you were correct... Peter No, not a virtue, more an affliction for the owner and the receiver. However, as a fairly early member of the Forum, I have always thought that it was pre-eminent as a Great War source, so that, in the few areas where I claim a depth of knowledge, I try to flag up perceived incorrect or misleading statements. Not a recipe for popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Doyle Posted 26 January , 2009 Share Posted 26 January , 2009 Indeed... Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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