trenchwalker Posted 22 March , 2004 Share Posted 22 March , 2004 hi every one i was asked on the ypres trip from my school on thursday and was asked to find someone from the school who was killed so i was takern into a dusty cuboard and behind some mops and ladders. THERE was a huge brass plack with the names of 53 men and 1 teacher . well i found the one they wanted a bloke from the middlesex in tyne cot. I have now found 32 of them i just need a little help finding a couple more what i wanna do is find them all. so if anyone can help im looking for anyone from the ENFIELD area: Teacher a.c. greenwood student c.attwood a.allen a e clarke j h filby w.m greed d.gritty thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Lewis Posted 22 March , 2004 Share Posted 22 March , 2004 Trench I found this Name: CLARK, ARTHUR EDWIN Initials: A E Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Gunner Regiment: Royal Field Artillery Age: 24 Date of Death: 02/11/1918 Service No: 137702 Additional information: Son of Joseph and Emily Clark, of 94, Green St., Enfield Highway. Twice previously wounded. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Cemetery: ENFIELD HIGHWAY (ST. JAMES) CHURCHYARD SDGW- Born-Enfield Highway,Middx Enlisted-Tottenham,Middx Name: GREED, WILLIAM Initials: W Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Serjeant Regiment: London Regt (Royal Fusiliers) Unit Text: "B" Coy. 1st Bn. Age: 21 Date of Death: 15/09/1916 Service No: 2507 Additional information: Son of Walter and Mary Ann Greed, of 8, Woodlands Rd., Enfield, Middx. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 16 B Cemetery: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL SDGW- Enlisted-Handel St Residence-Enfield Killed in Action This man is the only Gritty listed on CWGC site and SDGW records he was Born and Enlisted in Enfield Name: GRITTY, FREDERICK Initials: F Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment: Lancashire Fusiliers Unit Text: 18th Bn. Date of Death: 30/07/1916 Service No: 33289 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Pier and Face 3 C and 3 D Cemetery: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL Trench I'm not sure if this is your man but he is the only JH Filby on CWGC Name: FILBY, JOHN HENRY Initials: J H Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment: Northumberland Fusiliers Unit Text: 12th/13th Bn. Date of Death: 25/08/1918 Service No: 205719 Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 3 Cemetery: VIS-EN-ARTOIS MEMORIAL Regards Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchwalker Posted 22 March , 2004 Author Share Posted 22 March , 2004 cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Lewis Posted 23 March , 2004 Share Posted 23 March , 2004 Trenchie Was the information of use? I wasn't sure with your response. Regards doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchwalker Posted 23 March , 2004 Author Share Posted 23 March , 2004 oh yes its all correct been looking at dates of students at schools census etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw Posted 23 March , 2004 Share Posted 23 March , 2004 That brass plaque needs to come out of it's broom cupboard PDQ to assume it's rightful place of honour somewhere in the school. Why , if it ever needed to be removed , was it not replaced somewhere suitable ? My school's war memorial has been on the wall in the hall for 50 plus years having been moved there from a demolished building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Dawson Posted 23 March , 2004 Share Posted 23 March , 2004 That brass plaque needs to come out of it's broom cupboard PDQ to assume it's rightful place of honour somewhere in the school. I couldn't agree more. It is appalling that this is hidden in a broom cupboard. So much for "We shall remember them". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trenchwalker Posted 24 March , 2004 Author Share Posted 24 March , 2004 the plauque used to be in the main hall but got vanderliced so was redone then the hall got a new lick of paint.the plarck was then put in the main lobby then a office was built around it the office closed and was turn into the broom cuboard were it remain. i have talked with my head mistress she not intrested. maybe if i broke a small childs legs i would get some attention ,the plark will go up and ill get a free trip to alton towers. so if they dont want it i may adorn my jekin and cap comforter and do a raid. hopefully making it appearance in the royal gunpowder mills. hhhmmmm * polishing a trench club* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleur Posted 24 March , 2004 Share Posted 24 March , 2004 You head mistress want a damned good slap (in the words of a certain Mr Wogan). How can she be so ... so ... negative about it! Hell, if I were you Mart, I'd be on to the papers or something about this - it's your heritage she is keeping locked away in that cupboard and she has no right to keep it from the children of your school - even if the majority of them wouldn't know what it was. If she doesn't want it you should ask her if you can give it a good home - wait until she goes in the future and then return it with a huge fanfare to the new head. just my opinion - been a long day - am off home now Fleur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianw Posted 24 March , 2004 Share Posted 24 March , 2004 Good thinking Fleur. What a dense woman - how about talking to the Head of the History Dept, instead ? This sort of thing makes me so cross ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Dawson Posted 24 March , 2004 Share Posted 24 March , 2004 I am just staggered by the attitude of this Head Mistress. It is quite extraordinary. I really think you should involve someone else who would be interested. Maybe ex pupils; PTA; or local history people. But I think it is just criminal that this piece of the school's heritage, a commemoration of past pupils sacrifices, should be treated in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Godden Posted 24 March , 2004 Share Posted 24 March , 2004 Just a suggestion Trenchie...write an article or letter for your local freebie paper about it and then see what happens. No schools like bad press in this day and age and you may find they give this plaque and what it represents the respect it deserves afterwards. All the best on your crusade, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denbee Posted 25 March , 2004 Share Posted 25 March , 2004 Tim G's advice is good advice. This PC type teacher is probably more concerned with the EU aspect, than our duty aspect. Try an Our Lost hero's of yesteryearwith your local press. They love controversy And local names sell local papers' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Denbee Posted 25 March , 2004 Share Posted 25 March , 2004 Then sit back and watch her squirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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