auchonvillerssomme Posted 13 January , 2009 Share Posted 13 January , 2009 J 15 VII The J is? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 13 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 13 January , 2009 Its another one off an igniter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikB Posted 13 January , 2009 Share Posted 13 January , 2009 Perhaps Birmingham Metals & Munitions Co I was thinking it was from 303 Mk.VII ball, but I suppose the headstamp might be the same anyway. Regards, MikB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 13 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 13 January , 2009 Yes it is Birmingam, thank you, havent been able to access usual headstamp site. They used common cases so the maker is irrelevent. Thank you. Mick I mean irrelevent to its use as an igniter. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 13 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 13 January , 2009 I found 2 this morning, one is marked B VII 15 and the other J VII 15. Nice little haul of them over past year or so. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 13 January , 2009 Share Posted 13 January , 2009 Mick Although "J" is generally listed as Birmingham Metals and Munitions, it is really more correct to show it as Nobels Explosives, who were the owner of BMMCo. Nobels had also purchased F.Joyce and Co. in 1907 who had a factory at Waltham Abbey in Essex, and ammunition produced there bore the "J" headstamp. BMMCo. (Nobels) also used the "M" and "N" codes for components produced at other Nobel facilities. Which type of igniter is this on? Any chance of a photograph of the case? Thanks TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikB Posted 13 January , 2009 Share Posted 13 January , 2009 Mick Although "J" is generally listed as Birmingham Metals and Munitions, it is really more correct to show it as Nobels Explosives, who were the owner of BMMCo. Nobels had also purchased F.Joyce and Co. in 1907 who had a factory at Abbey Wood in Kent, and ammunition produced there bore the "J" headstamp. BMMCo. (Nobels) also used the "M" and "N" codes for components produced at other Nobel facilities. Which type of igniter is this on/ Any chance of a photograph of the case/ Thanks TonyE Oh Christ. Exposed again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 13 January , 2009 Share Posted 13 January , 2009 Not at all! "J" is shown on most lists as Birmingham as they actually managed the Joyce factory, so it is not wrong. I was merely exercising my right to be pedantic about these things. You will also notice that since you quoted my post I have edited it to change their location from Abbey Wood in Kent to Waltham Abbey in Essex. It was Kings Norton Metals Co. that had the plant at Abbey Wood! Regards TonyE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 14 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 14 January , 2009 Thank you Tony, the list I can now access has it as Birmingham. Heres pic as requested, will try and sort pic of headstamp. http://s551.photobucket.com/albums/ii454/a...current=002.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyE Posted 14 January , 2009 Share Posted 14 January , 2009 Here is a picture of the unfired case on the left, identified by the black staining. I originally used this to show the difference between the igniter and the special MG blank for the Vickers gun, with which it is sometimes confused. The igniters were usually made from reject cases so are likely to turn up with any headstamp. Regards Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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