Mehitabell Posted 7 November , 2008 Share Posted 7 November , 2008 Back in 2005 there was a post here regarding HMS Scott. I have recently discovered that Able Seaman J/11839 Percy Peter John Plant, (a cousin of my husband) was lost when the ship was sunk. So far I've managed to find one image of the ship and a brief description which says that she was a WWI destroyer of the Admiralty Large design, built by Cammel-Laird, completed in 1917 with a displacement of 1,801 tons and that it's main armament was five 4.7" guns with six 21" torpedo tubes. The 2005 post, (by Ken47), said that 23 hands were lost, which added to my knowledge, but if someone could suggest where I might find more information - or indeed where that information came from - it would be very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence Munson Posted 7 November , 2008 Share Posted 7 November , 2008 Hello Mehitabell From: "British Warship Losses in the Iron Clad Era 1816 - 1919" by David Hepper. 15 August 1918. SCOTT destroyer Birkenhead 1917; 1,800 tons; 332.5 ft by 32 ft; 5 x 4.7 in, 1 x 3 in, 6 x torpedo tubes. Captain Hon. William Spencer Leverson-Gower “Another of the group tasked to escort traffic from the Hook of Holland. When "Ulleswater" was hit she immediately closed and was manoeuvring close to the stricken destroyer when she suffered two explosions in quick succession when hit by torpedos. The first was aft, triggering an explosion in the after magazine, followed seconds later by a second amidships. Several observers having claimed to have seen torpedo tracks a vigorous hunt then followed, with numerous depth charges being dropped without result. The "Scott" sank fifteen minutes after the explosions occurred, twenty-two men having been killed.” (TNA; PRO ADM.1/8534/228) www.uboat.net records that UC 17 laid mines 22.7.18 in this area but was not credited for that sinking Edit by TcM to correct UC 17 statement Cheers, Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melliget Posted 7 November , 2008 Share Posted 7 November , 2008 Hi. Using Geoff's search engine, the CWGC have 23 casualties for HMS Scott. Unless noted otherwise, casualties are Royal Navy, died 15/08/1918 and commemorated at Chatham Naval Memorial (four men were buried in a cemetery in the Netherlands): BISHOP, HERBERT JAMES BURT, Able Seaman, age 31. Only son of Mrs. J. Bishop, of Hastings, and the late James Bishop (Ch. P.O., R.N.); husband of Margaret Mary Bishop, of 45, Upper Milton Rd., Gillingham, Kent. BLOOMFIELD, MONTAGUE GEORGE, Signalman. PLYMOUTH NAVAL MEMORIAL CAREY, FREDERICK CHARLES, Officer's Steward 2nd Class, age 26. Son of Mr. and Mrs. Carey, of Ilford, Essex. DANIELS, ALFRED WILLIAM, Stoker 1st Class. DETTMER, HENRY WILLIAM, Leading Seaman. EASEY, ROBERT, Stoker 1st Class. GOODMAN, E., Chief Stoker, age 45. Husband of Margaret Goodman, of 9, The Clayton, Bedlington Station, Northumberland. Born at Westminster, London. NOORDWIJK GENERAL CEMETERY (Netherlands) Note: From RN index, first name Edwin, p.o.b. Westminster Isle of Wight. HEWITT, JOSEPH, Able Seaman, age 37. Son of Joseph and Fanny Hewitt, of London. HICK, S. H., Officer's Cook 1st Class. LEWISHAM (HITHER GREEN) CEMETERY. Died 20/08/1918. Note: From RN index, Sidney Herbert, p.o.b. Hull, Yorkshire (b. 1885). JAMES, ALBERT EDWARD, Steward 3rd Class. KEMP, RICHARD WILLIAM, Ordinary Seaman. LEE, JOSEPH HENRY, Leading Stoker, age 26. Mentioned in despatches. Son of Joseph Henry and Annie Lee, of London; husband of Rosetta Alice Lee, of 5, Cambridge Circus, Hackney Road, London. LUDBROOK, FREDERICK THOMAS, Boy Telegraphist, age 17. Son of George and Edith Ludbrook, of 22, Pancras Square, Pancras Rd., London. SHOTLEY (ST. MARY) CHURCHYARD MAY, VICTOR NORMAN, Leading Seaman. MITCHELL, JESSE, Able Seaman, age 39. Son of John and Lydia Mitchell, of Sidmouth, Devon; husband of Edith Mitchell, of 2, Parkwood Rd., Tavistock, Devon. NOORDWIJK GENERAL CEMETERY (Netherlands) MORGAN, THOMAS, Able Seaman, RNVR, age 22. Son of Thomas and Jane Morgan, of Moor-Corner Farm, Port-Eynon, Gower, Glam. NOORDWIJK GENERAL CEMETERY (Netherlands) PARKER, WILLIAM EDWARD, Ordinary Seaman, age 29. Son of Charles and Mary Ann Parker, of Brize-Norton, Bampton, Oxon. NOORDWIJK GENERAL CEMETERY (Netherlands) PARTINGTON, FREDERICK JAMES, Able Seaman, age 24. Son of James and Alice R. Partington, of 4A, Morley Rd., Leyton, London. PLANT, PERCY PETER JOHN, Able Seaman, age 23. Son of Emily Hammond (formerly Plant), of Hill House, Southwold Rd., Wrentham, Wangford, Suffolk, and the late Herbert Plant. ROSE, ALFRED ARTHUR, Able Seaman, age 38. Son of Mr. and Mrs. Rose, of Herne Bay; husband of R. Rose, of 48, King's St., Herne Bay, Kent. SADLER, STANLEY, Stoker 1st Class. SHURBEN, WILLIAM EDWARD, Officer's Steward 3rd Class, age 23. Son of William Edward and Alice Shurben, of 17, Chelford St., Chorlton-on-Medlock, Manchester. Native of Walthamstow, London. SUDDER, JAMES WILLIAM, Able Seaman, age 35. Long Service and Good Conduct Medal. Son of James Robert and Alice Sudder; husband of Esther Sudder, of 73, Middlegate St., Great Yarmouth. regards, Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehitabell Posted 8 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 8 November , 2008 That is absolutely brilliant - thank you so much folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
per ardua per mare per terram Posted 9 November , 2008 Share Posted 9 November , 2008 Pictures http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/scot...#HMS%20Montrose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon S. Posted 10 November , 2008 Share Posted 10 November , 2008 Hello, both destroyers, SCOTT and ULLESWATER, were hit by mines from UC 17. It wasn't a torpedo attack because UC 17 was in dry dock for repairs since Aug. 5th. She left port for her next patrol in September. Best wishes, Simon S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence Munson Posted 10 November , 2008 Share Posted 10 November , 2008 Simon - Quite right just had another look at uboat.net and saw this "This boat (UC 17) laid mines 22.7.18 in this area but was not credited for that sinking" I'll correct my previous post! Cheers, Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pippa Doll Posted 15 November , 2008 Share Posted 15 November , 2008 I just wanted to add that my Great Great Grandad was James William Sudder. We have various bits of paperwork and have downloded the ship's log from the TNA which was interesting reading. It has been difficult for us to find information about HMS Scott and we have always wondered if she was on a secret mission. Apologies for not posting sooner but it took a while to be approved on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sijlmans Posted 1 January , 2013 Share Posted 1 January , 2013 Hello Pippa Doll, On our cemetery in Noordwijk, Netherlands we have 4 graves of identified HMS Scott crew. Their names are: Thomas Morgan Jesse Mitchell Edwin Goodman William Edward Parker You write about the log of HMS Scott and "TNA" What is TNA en how can I have a look at/in it? In your search for your great granddad did you ever read about the 4 men I mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_Underdown Posted 1 January , 2013 Share Posted 1 January , 2013 TNA = The National Archives. Http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk - though for online records going direct to http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk would probably be best bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon S. Posted 12 January , 2013 Share Posted 12 January , 2013 Hello mates, I have news abt. the sinkings of H.M.S. SCOTT and H.M.S. ULLESWATER. They ran into the mines laid by S.M. U 71 (Scheurlen)!!! I came across this while reading the KTB and the mine laying report of this submarine. The position given there matches with the sinking positions of both destroyers. The 34 mines were laid on March 25th, 1918. Best wishes, Simon S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penfold Posted 14 August , 2014 Share Posted 14 August , 2014 Hi, Does anyone have a photo of the ships crest for the Scott please? thanks, Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 14 August , 2014 Share Posted 14 August , 2014 There were no official badges until the Ships' Badges Committee was established late in 1918, and probably not before 10 December 1918 when Charles ffoulkes, Curator of the IWM, was appointed Admiralty adviser on heraldry. If that particular SCOTT had a badge it would have been unofficial and you'd probably need to track down some of the ship's ephemera (menus, notepaper, programme notes for entertainment, photographs of the gun tampions) to see if there was one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penfold Posted 14 August , 2014 Share Posted 14 August , 2014 Thank you for the information that was very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsac Posted 15 August , 2014 Share Posted 15 August , 2014 Find here award to one of crew of SCOTT. You can see that the compiler belived that SCOTT had been torpedoed. But he was writing `at the time' !! CHARNOCK Richard S N/E Gunner RN 78C034 Scott Rear Admiral Harwich 05.10.18 Gazetted Torpedoing of Ulleswater & Scott 15.08.18 Mentioned in Despatches On the 15th August, 1918, when "Scott" was sunk by torpedoes, this officer was aft preparing to take "Ulleswater" in tow. When "Scott" was torpedoed he was injured by the explosions, but showed a great example of coolness under trying conditions to the rest of the men who with him were cut off from the rest of the ship by flames and steam. Sadsac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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