foxfamily@lineone.net Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Can anyone help identify which regiment the group of soldiers in the photo are with. Family came from London but other than that no other info, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsac Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Jane, not much of an idea really. But by the Officer and the `spick & span' dressing it could be of a Fire Brigade Company ?? The officer in the `Pith Helmet' with badge looks large enough to be `fire'. Apart from covering the head, what other use was there for a PITH Helmet ?? Answers on the back of a FIVER please !!! With much apologies Jane, Sadsac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 "Pith helmet!! - pith helmet!!" One hopes you were only making merry jest? It's an officers Home Service pattern helmet he's wearing and if I can do an upload not unlike the one attached, which is an officers helmet of the 1st Volunteer Bn, Northumberland Fusiliers. They're usually have a blue cloth cover for line infantry units, but light infantry units wore dark green and some Volunteer units wore them in the grey as illustrated. Jane Could you possibly make the photo larger so that we can get a better look and try and identify the unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsac Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Graham, great pic of a `Pith Helmet' !! Although I had no specific knowledge of it being a `Home Service' helmet I suspected somesuch. Bet he would not dare to wear that in the `Front' in Flanders - would have had it shot off his head in a trice me thinks. Pith Helmet - Yes, making merry - I'm a sad fellow really !!! Sadsac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsac Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Graham, just had another quick look at HELM, which had puzzled me. Now I recall why - T'is of a Victorian Helm !! Clue ?? - Queens Crown ! Sadsac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 No problem hombre and tis I who should declare himself the sad one, as I find that I'm getting worse than a dedicated train spotter for this sort of thing. As you will know the officer in the photo will, dating from the photo, probably have a Kings Crown attached to his helmet plate. I'm just hoping we get a larger photo or close up of the badges to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyneside Chinaman Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Dear Mr Stewart, The Suadi sun must be getting to you - of course it is a helmet, These fall into many catogories, Steel, Brodie, Pit, Pith, Officers. Other Ranks, Blue, Green, Grey some even have numbers and even dare I say there is one known as a Policeman's. [no dirty laughter please folks] Calm Down PITH PITH of course Sadsac was taking the PITH. As any old soldier would have realised, but I stepped back from making a comment. Hoping that a Jolly Jack Tar would come along such as yourself and put both boots into his gob together. Well done sir its not a Pith for it does not have a Pugaree as any one would know. Hee HEE The TC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 As you will know the officer in the photo will, dating from the photo, probably have a Kings Crown attached to his helmet plate. Maybe not! In my time, people hung on to their KGVI crown badges rather than change to the EIIR crown as it was a sign of the old soldier . (I was issued with a king`s crown capbadge in 1955). I suspect the queen`s crown might have lingered on many such helmets for quite some time. Unless, of course, it really was compulsory to change as soon as the king arrived in those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfamily@lineone.net Posted 3 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Graham Thanks foryour prompt reply. Here's a closer picture of the original, is this any better? If necessary I can re scan just the helmet in the centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyneside Chinaman Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Hi After trying to resize the photo the best I can come up with is the Seregant on the officers right may be Middlesex Regiment. But everything else breaks up. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyneside Chinaman Posted 3 November , 2008 Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Hi After trying to resize the photo the best I can come up with is the Seregant on the officers right may be Middlesex Regiment. But everything else breaks up. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfamily@lineone.net Posted 3 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 3 November , 2008 Thanks for trying. My great grandfather was in the 4/Middlesex reg when he first enlisted in 1914 and according to his medal card was in France in the October of the same year. He later transferred to the Machine Gun Corp. In family history I am always wary of making the evidence fit so that's why I'm seeking extra confirmation. Of course, I wouldn't have a clue which one he is, at the moment anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 4 November , 2008 Share Posted 4 November , 2008 Jane, There's a feee download called Microsoft Toys which contains a Photo-resizer programme, which is very simple to operate and will help you resize the photo to a respectable level for us to try and get a look at the badges. It's simple programme to work and once downloaded is a simple right-click. The only drawback being it will not work with Windows Vista, but is great with XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfamily@lineone.net Posted 4 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 4 November , 2008 Graham Thanks for the tip, would you a like a close up of both cap badges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadsac Posted 4 November , 2008 Share Posted 4 November , 2008 Tyne Chink / Graham, re the Helm. I was of course thinking of further use for same as putting the PITH of an ORANGE in - what were you thinking of ??!!!! Some American forces are seen sitting on top of their helmets - wonder if they would sit on one of this sort - methinks it would have been a case of `saving Ryan's privates' - perhaps someone should make a film of that name !!! Ho Hum !!!! Many apologies Jane - some on the Forum lead very dull lives !!! Sadsac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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