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1st Wiltshires - September 1918


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Can anyone help me out with this one....the war diary of the 1st Wiltshires says very little about the action in which one of my Holsworthy me was killed :-

<H1 style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt">Wednesday 18th September 1918 France, Equancourt</H1>04.30. Move to assembly positions completed. Battn HQ established at W.23.6.1.0 (Sheet 57c)

Battn attacked in conjunction with the Battns under cover of our barrage.

Casualties: Killed Officers Nil. ORs 13.

Wounded Officers Capt B C Mackie, Lieut D F Brown,

2nd Lieut J Carney, 2nd Lieut J C Kemp. ORs 71.

Missing Officers Nil. ORs 8.

Captures Personnel 4 Officers, 220 Ors.

War material 8 Field Guns.

Can anyone put some meat on the bones? Is there perhaps a Regimental History for the Wilts? Or has anyone any other information that might help me?

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My own modest work on the 1st Wiltshire is available from the Wardrobe (all monies to them, by the way!). HR Cumming's 'A Brigadier in France' is also useful (he was their Brigadier in Sept 1918). Cumming's book has been reprinted and is available at low cost.

Edwin

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I do not yet have the war dairy for 110th Brigade so Hanway Cumming's book is a good bet, as Edwin says, and is also available as a download see here http://www.archive.org/details/brigadierfrance00cummuoft

regards

Arm

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Thanks Edwin

Book ordered and awaiting with eager anticipation! (have also downloaded the other book too!)

quote name='edwin astill' date='Oct 28 2008, 09:41 AM' post='1035877']

My own modest work on the 1st Wiltshire is available from the Wardrobe (all monies to them, by the way!). HR Cumming's 'A Brigadier in France' is also useful (he was their Brigadier in Sept 1918). Cumming's book has been reprinted and is available at low cost.

Edwin

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Shawn.

I have read the War Diaries of the 6th and 7th Bn of the Leicestershire Regiment for that day. They were also in 110th Brigade so fought alongside your Holsworthy man.

Unfortunately, whilst some War Diaries are very descriptive others are less so - especially by 1918. Of the two, the 7th Bn is the more detailed but neither really gives a full picture - the 6th Bn War Diary does not even bother to mention the ceasefire on 11th November 1918!

The 110th Brigade was essentially a Leicestershire Brigade until repeated hammerings from the Germans - they always seemed to be in the firing line whenever the Germans launched an offensive in 1918 - meant they had to allow the Wiltshires in! Matthew Richardson's excellent book on 'The Tigers' is well worth a read in this regard if you can get it from your local library.

Neil

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Thanks for that Neil

It is interesting to read through war diaries and depending on the writer seems to depend a lot on how much (or, how little information) was included. I have recently been working through one where the first few months are amazingly detailed and run to pages and pages, and then the writer was either posted/KIA. The change in the diary is amazing - almost one sentance entries and little information. On a number of occassions the statement 'nothing of note' was entered, even when the battalion had suffered losses etc!

Shawn.

I have read the War Diaries of the 6th and 7th Bn of the Leicestershire Regiment for that day. They were also in 110th Brigade so fought alongside your Holsworthy man.

Unfortunately, whilst some War Diaries are very descriptive others are less so - especially by 1918. Of the two, the 7th Bn is the more detailed but neither really gives a full picture - the 6th Bn War Diary does not even bother to mention the ceasefire on 11th November 1918!

The 110th Brigade was essentially a Leicestershire Brigade until repeated hammerings from the Germans - they always seemed to be in the firing line whenever the Germans launched an offensive in 1918 - meant they had to allow the Wiltshires in! Matthew Richardson's excellent book on 'The Tigers' is well worth a read in this regard if you can get it from your local library.

Neil

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Shawn.

The man I have recently been researching went to France in August 1914 and was serving in France/Flanders or home wounded until he was killed in September 1918 as an officer in 6th Bn Leicestershire Regiment

I know our Australian, New Zealand, Canadian and American friends like to feel they 'won' the war (and I am not denigrating their fantastic efforts in any way as my great uncle was in the AIF) but, apart from the French, no Allied soldier had to endure such a long conflict.

Not saints but brave men all and it is quite humbling to learn their stories.

Neil

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Hi Neil

I'm sure anyone of us with more than a passing interest in the conflict will have tried to put ourselves in the place of those brave men - to experience their feelings, their fears and thoughts - and however we may try to do this - we can never come anywhere near experiencing how these men must have felt - heroes one and all....

Shawn.

The man I have recently been researching went to France in August 1914 and was serving in France/Flanders or home wounded until he was killed in September 1918 as an officer in 6th Bn Leicestershire Regiment

I know our Australian, New Zealand, Canadian and American friends like to feel they 'won' the war (and I am not denigrating their fantastic efforts in any way as my great uncle was in the AIF) but, apart from the French, no Allied soldier had to endure such a long conflict.

Not saints but brave men all and it is quite humbling to learn their stories.

Neil

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