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10th reinforcements maori contigent


sabine72

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Hallo,

I've been on the website of the auckland museum, but seem not to find info on the 10th reinforcements maori, at least not what I want to find

HMNZT69, 2 ships with 2036 men but that I found by entering a name I know the departure and arival port of the vesels,

am I doing something wrong ? it was my second time on the site

help would be mutch appreciated

kind regards

sabine

forgot to mention I saw at the cem report of ramparts cem that 9 are burried there am I correct? and all died at the end of december 1917

this is for a school project

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Hello Sabine,

I don't have the book Te Hokowhitu Atu at the moment to check the 10th's. However I notice these men from the Maori Battalion who died Dec 1917 are buried at Ramparts. Neither were in the 10th Reinforcements though.

Surname ANGEL

Given Name Edward

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 16/583

Rank Private

Body or Draft First Maori

Unit or Regiment A Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address Ruawai

Next of Kin Title W H

Next of Kin Surname ANGEL

Next of Kin Address Matakohe Northern Wairoa

Surname WHAREPAPA

Given Name Turi

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 20779

Rank Sergeant

Next of Kin Title Mrs Auatea

Next of Kin Surname WHAREPAPA

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Tokaanu near Lake Taupo

Roll 43

Page 36

Occupation Railway Employee

Cheers, Kooky

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Sabine I only found one Maori man who went over with the 10th Reinforcements and is buried at Ramparts. Below are the other 7.

10th Reinforcement

Lance Corporal Raika Whakarongatai Murray

12th Reinforcement

Private Heremia Tawhero Haenga

15th Reinforcement

Private Pona Marunui

19th Reinforcement

Private Nehe Patara

19th Reinforcement

Private Waata Taukamo

3rd Maori Contingent

Lance Corporal Rameka Taupaki

Reinforcements J Company

Private Benie Edmonds

Cheers, Kooky

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Hi kooky,

thank you,

I got realy confused after checking cwgc, several books and then websites in New Zealand, I found in one book that all the fallen men of New Zealand (10)burried in the cem are Maori, but in the cwgc cem repport I found 9 N-Z maori ,

bickenstaff william john died 17/12/1917 is number 10 but they refer not to Maori.

I did find Raika Whakarongatai murray in the database of aucklandmuseum, but only realised hours later that the embarcation unit is maybe not what I need, but last unit served is what I was after, should check all the names( I found on cwgc) at the acklandmuseum data base

a pitty their records are not online.

kind regards

sabine

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Kooky

you are a star :rolleyes:

I only visited the site once before and had no idea how it worked this morning.

and calling the other side of the world was no option.

kind regards

sabine

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a pitty their records are not online.

Apparently the WW1 NZEF records are being digitized to go online. The only NZEF records online at the moment are the Casualty Forms for Passchendaele.

I hot linked all the men in my second post to Auckland Cenotaph for you.

Rameka TAUPAKI married Gwennyth KENNY in 1916.

Sorry I couldn't help further.

Cheers, Kooky

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Sabine I should have mentioned this site too Maori Bn December 1917

The NZ Maori Pioneers where reformed as a full Maori unit on 1 September 1917, they were almagamated with the Otago Mounted Rifles after Gallipoli and known as the NZ Pioneer Battalion for previous 18 months.

I've uploaded the 10th Reinforcement list and shaded those men who died in either Belgium or France. But I don't think you need this list.

Edward Angel left NZ with the 1st Maori Contingent 14 February 1915

Turi Wharepapa left NZ with the 9th Reinforcements 11 October 1916

10th Reinf 15 November 1916

12th Reinf 2 January 1917

15th Reinf 3 April 1917

19th Reinf 16 july 1917

3rd Maori Contingent 5 February 1916

Lance Corporal William John Bickerstaff went with the 14th Reinforcements NZ Engineers 26 June 1916 and you are correct he was not a Maori.

Cheers, Kooky

10ReinMaori.pdf

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I don't have the book Te Hokowhitu Atu at the moment to check the 10th's.
I have a copy. Would it still be helpful to do a check in this source as well?

Robert

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I have a copy. Would it still be helpful to do a check in this source as well?

Robert

There is not much written for December 1917. See page 67.

Cheers, Kooky

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Thank you,

you are all verry helpfull to me, you will be acknowledged in my school repport,

kind regards

sabine

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Thank you,

You are welcome Sabine,

I hope you scrolled up and found how those men died on 31 December 1917. I set the link to the wrong paragraph sorry.

On the 31st, Lieut. Paku's platoon of C Company was caught by a shell in the early morning at the junction of Saville and Zouvebeke roads. The losses were six men killed and Lieut. Paku and 14 men wounded, two of whom died. A most unhappy ending to 1917.

Also I missed Private Henry Hauiti.

I noticed 3 were killed 23 December 1917. Hauiti, Marunui, Wharepapa, Reading the War history online "On the night of the 20th, a number of shells were thrown into the Pioneers' camp but did no damage. Next night German 'planes came over just after dark and dropped several bombs in the Battalion's area. The men in billets were all right, but some who were out loading a waggon which had just come in were caught. Three were killed and two wounded. "

The 20th could be a typo with the digitizing online. See paragraph 128

Cheers, Kooky

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kooky,

I hope we can meet again one day.

you are realy nice to help me out. :rolleyes:

kind regards

sabine

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