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I am seeking help in tracing details of Regular Service of a friend's relative. Lt and QM Albert Ridley appears to have an unusual background. By 1917 he was Lt and QM in the London Regt - Territorial Force (Kensington Battalion ) and finished in 1920 as a 'Captain' with the RAF.

His medals indicate he was an OR in the Regular Army but no idea with which, unit as we only have his miniatures. The medals are:

MBE (Mil Div pre 37 ribbon),

Queen's South Africa with 5 bars (Cape Colony, Transvaal, Orange Free State, SA 1901 and SA 1902),

1914 (Mons) Star with Aug to Nov bar,

British War Medal,

Victory Medal,

1911 Coronation

(Imperial) Long Service and Good Conduct Medal - 1901 Patt .

Grateful for any help in tracing his Regular Service and cap badge please?

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This could be a useful pointer to his earlier service, from the London Gazette (#28513, 14 July 1911). Link to Gazette is Here

13th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (Kensington);

Albert Ridley (late Regimental Quartermaster-Serjeant, 2nd Dragoon Guards (Queen's Bays)) to be Quartermaster, with

the honorary rank of Lieutenant. Dated 15th July, 1911.

Hope it helps.

Steve

edit: Assuming his South African service was with the 2nd Dragoon Guards then his medal entitlement can be confirmed by checking the QSA Medal Roll (reference WO100/112).

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Service history from London Gazette as best as I can find...

1. Appointment as Quartermaster etc.. in post #2 above.

2. Change to Appointment as Quartermaster etc....(LG#28514, 18 July 1911). Link to Gazette is Here

13th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (Kensington);

the resignation of Quartermaster and Honorary Major Alfred T. Poulter and the appointment of

Quartermaster and Honorary Lieutenant Albert Ridley, which were announced in the London Gazette of the 14th July, 1911, with effect from, the 15th July, 1911, are antedated to the 1st June, 1911.

3. Mentioned In Depatches (LG#29623, 15 June 1916). Link to Gazette is Here

Ridley, Qrmr. and Hon. Lt. A.

4. To be Honorary Captain (LG#30111, 4 June 1917). Link to Gazette is Here

TO BE HONORARY CAPTAINS.

Qrmr. and Hon. Lt. A. Ridley, Lond. R.

5. To RAF (can't find details of this)

6. MBE (can't find details of this)

7. Transferred to RAF Unemployed List (LG#32114, 5 November 1920). Link to Gazette is Here

ADMINISTRATIVE BRANCH.

The undermentioned are transferred to

unempld. list: —

2nd Lt. Alexander Gunn Darling. 8th Feb. 1919.

Capt. Albert Ridley, M.B.E. 24th Oct. 1920.

8. Relinquishment of RAF Commission (LG#32129, 19 November 1920). Link to Gazette is Here

Capt. Albert Ridley, M.B.E., relinquishes

his temp. R.A.F. commn. on appointment to

the T.F., and is permitted to retain his rank.

9. Appointment as Quartermaster with 13th London Regt. (LG#32147, 1 December 1920). Link to Gazette is Here

13th Bn., London Regt.—

Albert Ridley, late R.A.F., to be Qrmr. with the rank of Capt.

1st Dec. 1920

Hope this helps.

Steve

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The information I have on Ridley is as follows:

He was master of Kensington Battalion Lodge in 1921 (www.kensingtonbattalion3624.org.uk/past_masters_of_the_lodge.htm) and was present at the consecration of the Kensington Battalion Lodge on 22 November 1912 at Clarendon Restaurant, Hammersmith. Appointed Secretary (www.kensingtonbattalion3624.org.uk/consecration.htm.).

He was mentioned in Lord French’s despatches on 31 May 1915 (Complete Despatches of Lord French, Naval and Military Press, p.330).

Private John Tucker reported in his account of his time in the Kensingtons that after the attack on Gommecourt on 1st July 1916 that our '‘Our old Regimental Quarter Master, Captain Ridley, a South African War veteran, broke down and wept over the losses sustained by our fine battalion of which he was so proud'. (Source: J F Tucker, Johnny Get Your Gun, 'London: William Kimber 1978, p53),

In the December 1952 edition of the OCA journal the Kensington Ridley’s obituary was recorded: Captain A Ridley, MBE, 16 May 1952, at Ealing. Brig Gen Frederick Gustav Lewis, former Kensington CO wrote “Words are poor things in which to try and express our affection for 'Riddles' and our admiration for his untiring and devotion to his regiment...He came to us about 40 years ago after having served in the Bays, at a period when our Q branch was was in a most unholy muddle; but 'Riddles' took off his coat and got down to it at once...He was an expert in scrounging, and he 'made' a bicyle froma few odd bits of iron, a watch or two and three brass wheels. Strict teetoltaller though...it was he who found the remnants of the Battalion on 9 May at 5am (Kensington’s attacke on Auber Ridge, 9 May 1915) with a rum jar under each arm! To his fertile fertile brain came the idea of the OCA (the first in the TA) and its success to his lasting memorial.

Also the edition of the Kensington of Dec 1938 reported that Ridley had 'retired from Boy Scout Assoc of which he was appointed QM in 1920, though his service dated bac to 1920’.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Tom

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This could be a useful pointer to his earlier service, from the London Gazette (#28513, 14 July 1911). Link to Gazette is Here

13th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (Kensington);

Albert Ridley (late Regimental Quartermaster-Serjeant, 2nd Dragoon Guards (Queen's Bays)) to be Quartermaster, with

the honorary rank of Lieutenant. Dated 15th July, 1911.

Hope it helps.

Steve

edit: Assuming his South African service was with the 2nd Dragoon Guards then his medal entitlement can be confirmed by checking the QSA Medal Roll (reference WO100/112).

Steve,

Thank you so much. That is very helpful indeed.

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Service history from London Gazette as best as I can find...

1. Appointment as Quartermaster etc.. in post #2 above.

2. Change to Appointment as Quartermaster etc....(LG#28514, 18 July 1911). Link to Gazette is Here

13th (County of London) Battalion, The London Regiment (Kensington);

the resignation of Quartermaster and Honorary Major Alfred T. Poulter and the appointment of

Quartermaster and Honorary Lieutenant Albert Ridley, which were announced in the London Gazette of the 14th July, 1911, with effect from, the 15th July, 1911, are antedated to the 1st June, 1911.

3. Mentioned In Depatches (LG#29623, 15 June 1916). Link to Gazette is Here

Ridley, Qrmr. and Hon. Lt. A.

4. To be Honorary Captain (LG#30111, 4 June 1917). Link to Gazette is Here

TO BE HONORARY CAPTAINS.

Qrmr. and Hon. Lt. A. Ridley, Lond. R.

5. To RAF (can't find details of this)

6. MBE (can't find details of this)

7. Transferred to RAF Unemployed List (LG#32114, 5 November 1920). Link to Gazette is Here

ADMINISTRATIVE BRANCH.

The undermentioned are transferred to

unempld. list: —

2nd Lt. Alexander Gunn Darling. 8th Feb. 1919.

Capt. Albert Ridley, M.B.E. 24th Oct. 1920.

8. Relinquishment of RAF Commission (LG#32129, 19 November 1920). Link to Gazette is Here

Capt. Albert Ridley, M.B.E., relinquishes

his temp. R.A.F. commn. on appointment to

the T.F., and is permitted to retain his rank.

9. Appointment as Quartermaster with 13th London Regt. (LG#32147, 1 December 1920). Link to Gazette is Here

13th Bn., London Regt.—

Albert Ridley, late R.A.F., to be Qrmr. with the rank of Capt.

1st Dec. 1920

Hope this helps.

Steve

Steve, this is really great stuff, we knew nothing before. Thank you.

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The information I have on Ridley is as follows:

He was master of Kensington Battalion Lodge in 1921 (www.kensingtonbattalion3624.org.uk/past_masters_of_the_lodge.htm) and was present at the consecration of the Kensington Battalion Lodge on 22 November 1912 at Clarendon Restaurant, Hammersmith. Appointed Secretary (www.kensingtonbattalion3624.org.uk/consecration.htm.).

He was mentioned in Lord French’s despatches on 31 May 1915 (Complete Despatches of Lord French, Naval and Military Press, p.330).

Private John Tucker reported in his account of his time in the Kensingtons that after the attack on Gommecourt on 1st July 1916 that our '‘Our old Regimental Quarter Master, Captain Ridley, a South African War veteran, broke down and wept over the losses sustained by our fine battalion of which he was so proud'. (Source: J F Tucker, Johnny Get Your Gun, 'London: William Kimber 1978, p53),

In the December 1952 edition of the OCA journal the Kensington Ridley’s obituary was recorded: Captain A Ridley, MBE, 16 May 1952, at Ealing. Brig Gen Frederick Gustav Lewis, former Kensington CO wrote “Words are poor things in which to try and express our affection for 'Riddles' and our admiration for his untiring and devotion to his regiment...He came to us about 40 years ago after having served in the Bays, at a period when our Q branch was was in a most unholy muddle; but 'Riddles' took off his coat and got down to it at once...He was an expert in scrounging, and he 'made' a bicyle froma few odd bits of iron, a watch or two and three brass wheels. Strict teetoltaller though...it was he who found the remnants of the Battalion on 9 May at 5am (Kensington’s attacke on Auber Ridge, 9 May 1915) with a rum jar under each arm! To his fertile fertile brain came the idea of the OCA (the first in the TA) and its success to his lasting memorial.

Also the edition of the Kensington of Dec 1938 reported that Ridley had 'retired from Boy Scout Assoc of which he was appointed QM in 1920, though his service dated bac to 1920’.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Tom

Tom,

Thanks so much for this. The Forum comes up trumps again. We know so much more now than before. We are obliged for your efforts.

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