manumercer Posted 16 October , 2008 Share Posted 16 October , 2008 Hi there would anyone have any photos or information on the 1st bn, royal inniskilling fusilers. I had a relative W coffey who was killed at Gallipoli 1915, also my partners grandfather David Millar was in the 1st bn, to both these men were from inniskillen. I look forward to any reply. Reguards Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMannus Posted 16 October , 2008 Share Posted 16 October , 2008 Afternoon Gary Try this link http://1914-1918.net/skins.htm I'm also in the process of researching a Sgt William John Hassard, 1st Battalion, 7942 from Church Hill, Whiterock near Enniskillen town. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 16 October , 2008 Share Posted 16 October , 2008 Gary, Not able to offer any direct help, but I'm researching Pte John Whitley, 12122, 1st Battalion, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. He's buried in the churchyard of St Lawrence, Over Peover in Cheshire even though he seems to have no connection with the area. He was from Moy in Co Tyrone. He died on 1st July 1915 aged only 18 years. There was a Red Cross auxiliary hospital in Over Peover in WW1, so my current thinking is that he was wounded or taken ill at Gallipoli or on the way there, was repatriated back to hospital in Cheshire where he then died. His stone is particularly poignant standing alone in the churchyard - neither on the battlefield with his comrades, nor back at home with his own folk Happily the good people of Peover look after it well, so he's been made to feel at home .. and it's a beautiful country churchyard. I've found the Ulster Memorials website helpful: War Memorials in Ulster Let us know what you find out - it's likely to be useful for my research too! Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMannus Posted 16 October , 2008 Share Posted 16 October , 2008 Mark Eugene Whitley signed the Ulster Covenant in 1912 http://applications.proni.gov.uk/UlsterCov...age=M0035240013 David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manumercer Posted 16 October , 2008 Author Share Posted 16 October , 2008 Gary, Not able to offer any direct help, but I'm researching Pte John Whitley, 12122, 1st Battalion, Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers. He's buried in the churchyard of St Lawrence, Over Peover in Cheshire even though he seems to have no connection with the area. He was from Moy in Co Tyrone. He died on 1st July 1915 aged only 18 years. There was a Red Cross auxiliary hospital in Over Peover in WW1, so my current thinking is that he was wounded or taken ill at Gallipoli or on the way there, was repatriated back to hospital in Cheshire where he then died. His stone is particularly poignant standing alone in the churchyard - neither on the battlefield with his comrades, nor back at home with his own folk Happily the good people of Peover look after it well, so he's been made to feel at home .. and it's a beautiful country churchyard. I've found the Ulster Memorials website helpful: War Memorials in Ulster Let us know what you find out - it's likely to be useful for my research too! Cheers, Mark thanks mark il let you no if i find anything. gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manumercer Posted 16 October , 2008 Author Share Posted 16 October , 2008 Afternoon Gary Try this link http://1914-1918.net/skins.htm I'm also in the process of researching a Sgt William John Hassard, 1st Battalion, 7942 from Church Hill, Whiterock near Enniskillen town. David hi david thanks for that. gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Morgan Posted 16 October , 2008 Share Posted 16 October , 2008 I've got a handful of 1st battalion photos, mostly A company, most pre 1914. My Grandfather was with them 1903 - 1918. Drop me an email and I'll get them out to you, kenneth-morgan@rogers.com Take care, Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manumercer Posted 16 October , 2008 Author Share Posted 16 October , 2008 I've got a handful of 1st battalion photos, mostly A company, most pre 1914. My Grandfather was with them 1903 - 1918. Drop me an email and I'll get them out to you, kenneth-morgan@rogers.com Take care, Ken Hi ken just sent you an email could you confirm that you got it. regards gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Morgan Posted 16 October , 2008 Share Posted 16 October , 2008 Hi ken just sent you an email could you confirm that you got it. regards gary Nothing has come though. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manumercer Posted 16 October , 2008 Author Share Posted 16 October , 2008 I've got a handful of 1st battalion photos, mostly A company, most pre 1914. My Grandfather was with them 1903 - 1918. Drop me an email and I'll get them out to you, kenneth-morgan@rogers.com Take care, Ken Ken sorry il try again now gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manumercer Posted 16 October , 2008 Author Share Posted 16 October , 2008 Ken sorry il try again now gary ken dont think your getting my email here is mine garymercer390@btinternet.com Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 21 October , 2008 Share Posted 21 October , 2008 Mark Eugene Whitley signed the Ulster Covenant in 1912 http://applications.proni.gov.uk/UlsterCov...age=M0035240013 David David, Many thanks for that - it's fascinating: Eugene was John's father, and, from what I've found so far, was the caretaker of the Courthouse in Moy. Whether he had another occupation as well - I don't know. As well as John's poignant burial in Cheshire far away from his ain folk, I have a soft spot for that part of Tyrone, because my great grandfather (on my Ayrshire side) worked in the pit at nearby Coalisland some time between 1910 and 1925 when my grandmother was a wee girl. They must have known Moy. John Whitley is commemorated on the Moy War Memorial and I noticed there's also a Private W. Whitley, 2nd. Royal Irish Fusiliers. Obviously they may be related, but I've not traced that through as yet. I may well be needing to pick your brains when I've got a little further forward. I should really start a separate Topic for John Whitley though. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMannus Posted 21 October , 2008 Share Posted 21 October , 2008 Mark Won't take you very long!! This is the 1910 entry from the Belfast and Ulster directory. You may already have it. Whitley, Eugene, caretaker Courthouse Whitley, James, refreshment rooms, Charlemont street Whitley, John, refreshment rooms, Moy sq. Dont know if you know this but Eugene married Elizabeth (Menagh) at Moy Presbyterian Church on 14/2/1896 - St Valentines day. Need to go to PRONI for more info re William John Whitley who was with 1st RIF, KIA 12/10/1916, possibly a cousin. Regards David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 21 October , 2008 Share Posted 21 October , 2008 Mark Won't take you very long!! This is the 1910 entry from the Belfast and Ulster directory. You may already have it. Whitley, Eugene, caretaker Courthouse Whitley, James, refreshment rooms, Charlemont street Whitley, John, refreshment rooms, Moy sq. Need to go to PRONI for more info re William John Whitley who was with 1st RIF, KIA 12/10/1916, possibly a cousin. Regards David David, Many thanks again! I did already have the 1910 Ulster Directory info, but I wasn't sure how to interpret the entry for John Whitley as "my" John Whitley would only be 12 or 13 years old in 1910. I have yet to get to grips with PRONI! Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Wright Posted 22 October , 2008 Share Posted 22 October , 2008 Mark Won't take you very long!! This is the 1910 entry from the Belfast and Ulster directory. You may already have it. Whitley, Eugene, caretaker Courthouse Whitley, James, refreshment rooms, Charlemont street Whitley, John, refreshment rooms, Moy sq. Dont know if you know this but Eugene married Elizabeth (Menagh) at Moy Presbyterian Church on 14/2/1896 - St Valentines day. Need to go to PRONI for more info re William John Whitley who was with 1st RIF, KIA 12/10/1916, possibly a cousin. Regards David William John Whitley --1st Royal Irish Fusiliers--commerated on Thiepval--also born and Lived Moy---brothers!!! Wesley Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 22 October , 2008 Share Posted 22 October , 2008 William John Whitley --1st Royal Irish Fusiliers--commerated on Thiepval--also born and Lived Moy---brothers!!! Wesley Wright Wesley, How do you know they were brothers? Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Wright Posted 22 October , 2008 Share Posted 22 October , 2008 Wesley, How do you know they were brothers? Cheers, Mark Sorry if you thought I implied they were brothers--I was only posing the question that they could be brothers?? Wesley Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 23 October , 2008 Share Posted 23 October , 2008 Sorry if you thought I implied they were brothers--I was only posing the question that they could be brothers?? Wesley Wright Wesley, No probs - you had me all excited, cos I'd been trying to connect them as brothers but so far failed! Thought you'd found something I'd missed! I'm not that familiar with the BMD and census tools for Northern Ireland. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMannus Posted 23 October , 2008 Share Posted 23 October , 2008 Think PRONI is the only way we're going to solve this one. Discounted them as brothers because WJ Whitley has no commemoration on his CWGC entry. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 23 October , 2008 Share Posted 23 October , 2008 Think PRONI is the only way we're going to solve this one. Discounted them as brothers because WJ Whitley has no commemoration on his CWGC entry. David David, I agree on both points! Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Wright Posted 23 October , 2008 Share Posted 23 October , 2008 Think PRONI is the only way we're going to solve this one. Discounted them as brothers because WJ Whitley has no commemoration on his CWGC entry. David What does --no commemoration-- mean on his cwgc entry?? Wesley Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 23 October , 2008 Share Posted 23 October , 2008 What does --no commemoration-- mean on his cwgc entry?? Wesley Wright Wesley, The CWGC entry for John Whitley mentions that he was the "Son of Eugene and Elizabeth Whitley, of Moy, Co. Tyrone", I think David's reasoning is that if John and William were brothers, one might expect the CWGC to hold the same information about William, whereas William's entry is in fact missing anything like that. We've well and truly hi-jacked this Topic now - my apologies to Gary Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Wright Posted 23 October , 2008 Share Posted 23 October , 2008 Wesley, The CWGC entry for John Whitley mentions that he was the "Son of Eugene and Elizabeth Whitley, of Moy, Co. Tyrone", I think David's reasoning is that if John and William were brothers, one might expect the CWGC to hold the same information about William, whereas William's entry is in fact missing anything like that. We've well and truly hi-jacked this Topic now - my apologies to Gary Cheers, Mark Whilst I do not know if they were related--do not assume because one brother has details of next of kin related by Cwgc that the other brother will have same details. Have seen quite a number of brothers with details of one brother only. I agree the only answer is Proni--suggest probaly check 1901 cesus records--probaly for the parish of Dungannon. Wesley Wright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMannus Posted 23 October , 2008 Share Posted 23 October , 2008 Wesley I'm buying the coffee(or stronger elsewhere) if you can make it there tomorrow. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margogogo Posted 24 October , 2008 Share Posted 24 October , 2008 I've got a handful of 1st battalion photos, mostly A company, most pre 1914. My Grandfather was with them 1903 - 1918. Drop me an email and I'll get them out to you, kenneth-morgan@rogers.com Take care, Ken Hi Ken could i also ahve a look at the photos you have of the 1st battalion from 1914 as my grandparents served at that time just to see if they were there. many thanks . Trish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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