huwrevans Posted 25 September , 2008 Share Posted 25 September , 2008 A diversion as part of trying to create a database of all RFA soldiers in 38 Div in 1915 under the Units thread on the forum. Turned up : W/26 Driver Vonderahe J H (WO372/20) Seems a strange surname - possibly German form a previous reply (thanks for that). Any information or suggestions on this chap? Regards Huw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Soul Posted 25 September , 2008 Share Posted 25 September , 2008 It appears to be an almost unique surname in the 1901 Census - a whole family were living in Walthamstow andthere are only two others, both living in London. Looking back through previous censuses there is no evidence of any foreign births so it may be that the founding father (if that is the correct phrase) could have been of Hannovarian stock, having come over in the 18th Century. Andy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huwrevans Posted 25 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 25 September , 2008 Form Caroline earlier reply: According to Goggle the name was orginally Von Der Ahe and German there are Vonderahe's in London in the Fulham area listed on Ancestry but didn't find a V.E.Vonderahe in the Census returns and none showed up in Wales! Some listed as born England in 1860 and none with any foreign country of origin. Of course with a name like this we have to allow for transciption errors. Thanks for that Huw Being from London he could have been part of the original Brigades - who were transferred to the Welsh Div on their formation in end 14/start 15. Along with "Battery Sergeant Major George Dorrell VC, who was awarded one of the 3 V.Cs for the events of September 1st 1914 with 119 Bde. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhclark Posted 25 September , 2008 Share Posted 25 September , 2008 Huw, I think you'll find that he was Joseph Horace Vonderahe. Married 1907, West Ham Registration District. In 1901 shown living with parents Percival and Mary, plus numerous siblings, in Walthamstow. Not surprisingly, people have had trouble with transcribing this name! Joseph's birth was registered in the June quarter of 1886 as Vonderdhe, Joseph Horace. The FreeBMD transcriber has this as Vonderdre, Joseph Horner... Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhclark Posted 25 September , 2008 Share Posted 25 September , 2008 ... and his parents were Percival Vonderahe and Mary Ann Southcott, married December quarter 1872. Percival himself was born in Clerkenwell Registration District, December quarter 1850. Percy's father Charles was born in Surrey in about 1824, so the family were well-established in England. Noel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huwrevans Posted 25 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 25 September , 2008 Excellent detective work one and all. Since he was from London I presume he enisted as part of the original Bdes (before they transfered to 38Div). Would he therefore have been given a newr Regt No on transfer - this time prefixed with a "W/" ? If so what was his original number? Did he survive? Any family still around ? Questions! Questions! Questions ! Can someone upload his MIC here please? Regards Huw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmania Posted 25 September , 2008 Share Posted 25 September , 2008 Here it is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huwrevans Posted 25 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 25 September , 2008 Found these other two references - a father and possibly a brother? Vonderahe William J Army Service Corps Regt No CMT/3703 Seamans Record for Crane alias Vonderahe Number J2097 Islington Served 2 Oct 1892 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 25 September , 2008 Share Posted 25 September , 2008 Huw No entries in Commonwealth War Graves Commission site,so both survived the Great War. Sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caroline@linkagecomputing.co.uk Posted 25 September , 2008 Share Posted 25 September , 2008 William J. Vonderahe born 1890 living at 1 Albion Street , Bow, London, England with mother Louise and two sisters in 1901 Census. Someone has added a correction to a transcription error for an English "Vonderahe" but not this family so there must still be some about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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