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Battle of Lone Pine Hill


Jayenn

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I have a question regarding an Australian soldier who died at Gallipoli, in 1915.

On 22nd May 1919, his wife wrote to the Registrar of Deaths at Military Headquarters, Perth, requesting a copy of his death certificate.

She gave the following information:

Private Thomas George Noakes, No. 578, “B” Company, 3rd Brigade, 11th Battalion, killed in action, 1st August at Lone Pine, Gallipoli. 1915.

I don’t know much about Gallipoli (I’m learning!) but, from what I’ve read, the battle of Lone Pine Hill didn’t begin until the 6th August, so Thomas wasn’t killed in the battle.

I suppose that the AIF, including the 3rd Brigade, must have been preparing for the planned battle some days (perhaps weeks) before and Thomas just might have been shot by a sniper or something similar.

Is there anyone who could, perhaps, tell me more about who was where and what was happening around the 1st of August, please? I appreciate that there may be nothing to tell but I thought I’d ask because you never know!

TIA,

Jayenn

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Jayenn,

On the night of the 31st July-1st August the 11th Battalion launched a preliminary diversionary attack at Leanne's Trench, south of Lone Pine, a week before the attack at Lone Pine. An account of this attack can be read here: http://www.awm.gov.au/cms_images/histories/3/chapters/17.pdf

Pte Noakes' service record can be read here: http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/imagine.as...mp;I=1&SE=1

His family's roll of honour record can be read here: http://www.awm.gov.au/roh/person.asp?p=145-41058

Lone Pine was first occupied on the 25th April 1915 and was the scene of bitter fighting right up till the Evacuation. But Pte Noakes was not killed there. He is buried in the Shell Green Cemetery.

Bob

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Jayenn,

On the night of the 31st July-1st August the 11th Battalion launched a preliminary diversionary attack at Leanne's Trench, south of Lone Pine, a week before the attack at Lone Pine. An account of this attack can be read here: http://www.awm.gov.au/cms_images/histories/3/chapters/17.pdf

Pte Noakes' service record can be read here: http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/imagine.as...mp;I=1&SE=1

His family's roll of honour record can be read here: http://www.awm.gov.au/roh/person.asp?p=145-41058

Lone Pine was first occupied on the 25th April 1915 and was the scene of bitter fighting right up till the Evacuation. But Pte Noakes was not killed there. He is buried in the Shell Green Cemetery.

Bob

Thanks Bob,

I have seen the information on both sites but not the account of the attack so I'll have a look at that later.

From what I'd seen of his papers, on the NAA site, I didn't think he'd been killed at Lone Pine but the letter from his wife made me think I ought, at least, to check. As you say, he's buried in Shell Green Cemetery and, not in the one at Lone Pine, which seems to prove the point.

So, it seems most probable that he was killed at the attack at Leanne's Trench, which I didn't know anything about!

You've answered my question, Bob, and thanks very much!

Jayenn

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Thanks once again, Bob, I've had a look at the "Australian War Memorial" site and that's what I was looking for.

I wanted to try to fill the gap in this man's history and rather than just saying "he was killed on 1st August", I hoped to give some reason and this gives me a probable, even a likely, reason.

We'll, of course, never know with absolute certainty, exactly how, when, or where he died, unless there was an eye-witness who saw and recorded the facts, but this is as close to the truth as I am likely to get.

Thanks very much (yet again!), I really am delighted.

Jayenn

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