mcnab Posted 9 September , 2008 Share Posted 9 September , 2008 Sorry to put this on the Great War Forum, but I'm researchin a soldier from the 1st Battallion 24th Foot, a Welsh regiment stationed at Colchester in 1881 where we have on the 1881 census a 16 year old soldier who is of interest to me. How can I find out more about him? He apparently recieved no medals, I have the movements of the regiment from their museum currator. Are records held at Kew for that date, if so what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high wood Posted 9 September , 2008 Share Posted 9 September , 2008 You would need to check the regimental muster rolls held at the National Archives. WO12 if my memory serves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted 9 September , 2008 Share Posted 9 September , 2008 Hi Mcnab in 1891 there's this Name: Edward Lancaster Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Soldier Gender: Male Where born: Louth, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Aldershot Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael Town: Aldershot County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status:Sergeant View Image Registration district: Farnham Sub registration district: Frimley ED, institution, or vessel: 1st Battalion the Queens Royal West Surrey Regiment Births Jun 1863 (>99%) LANCASTER Edward Caistor 7a 606 There's no BMD record for 1 born in Surrey that I can see There's a pension record for the 1 above but there are little bits that don't tally. You can PM your email addy and I'll send it to you Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 9 September , 2008 Share Posted 9 September , 2008 You will need to look at the records in WO97 at Kew. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnab Posted 9 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 9 September , 2008 Nice work! I found a soldier called Edward Lancaster of 16 years at Colchester camp on the 1881 census. The xxil were there at that time according to the regimental museum currator. Then I found this chap Casualty Details Name: LANCASTER, EDWARD Initials: E Nationality: United Kingdom Rank: Private Regiment/Service: Manchester Regiment Age: 50 Date of Death: 15/11/1915 Service No: 20071 Additional information: Husband of Martha Lancaster, of 21, West Brownbill St., Salford. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: J. N.C. 2322. Cemetery: SALFORD (WEASTE) CEMETERY This discovery puts this thread ON TOPIC for this forum Wonder if this was my boy soldier from 1881, the dates fit. Can't find his medal card. Can I search WO67 online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshdoc Posted 10 September , 2008 Share Posted 10 September , 2008 At the age of 50 there is a fair chance he didnt serve in an area eligble for a medal award (so no MIC). I beleive though that He would though be eligible for a memorial plaque as he died in service within the qualifying date. He is not included on the soldiers died CDROM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted 10 September , 2008 Share Posted 10 September , 2008 According to the 1881 Census, the Edward Lancaster at the ‘Infantry Camp’, St Botolph’s, Colchester, was born in Newington, Surrey, (now part of the London Borough of Southwark). On the same page, the entry above is for an Alfred Lancaster, 21, born in Banbury, Oxfordshire. He might possibly be Edward’s older brother. As the Edward Lancaster found in the 1891 Census was born in Louth, there is a strong possibility that these are two separate individuals. Bootneck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilEvans Posted 10 September , 2008 Share Posted 10 September , 2008 There is an Edward Lansater (born Louth) pension record on Ancestry Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annswabey Posted 10 September , 2008 Share Posted 10 September , 2008 To search records at Kew, WO97 should be your first port of call. Not online, though, you'd have to go there or get someone to go for you. If he's not there, then muster rolls would be your next option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnab Posted 10 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 10 September , 2008 Hmm Kew is at the other end of the Countr for me! I have been told Muster rolls for the regiment do not exist, but discharge papers do, at Kew! Anyone heading that way in the next week or so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annswabey Posted 10 September , 2008 Share Posted 10 September , 2008 To find out whether there are any musters for the timeframe for that regiment, you need to search the TNA catalogue - ref WO16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted 11 September , 2008 Share Posted 11 September , 2008 Muster roll for 1st Bn, 24th Foot, 1877-1882 can be found at Kew in WO 16/1573-5, while there is an index to casualty returns in WO 25/3368 covering the period c. 1850-1910. I must admit that most of this series of casualty indexes appear to peter out in the 1870s (perhaps due to the reforms of the early 1880s). I almost forgot to ask, where was the photograph taken? regards Bootneck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnab Posted 11 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 11 September , 2008 Muster roll for 1st Bn, 24th Foot, 1877-1882 can be found at Kew in WO 16/1573-5, while there is an index to casualty returns in WO 25/3368 covering the period c. 1850-1910. I must admit that most of this series of casualty indexes appear to peter out in the 1870s (perhaps due to the reforms of the early 1880s). I almost forgot to ask, where was the photograph taken? regards Bootneck The photo is of the top of the famous Cow and calf Rocks in Ilkley of Ilkley Moor Bah Tat fame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted 12 September , 2008 Share Posted 12 September , 2008 Great, I thought it might have been Brecon (but it didn't look that familiar) because it didn't look any thing like how I remember Colchester. Bootneck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootneck Posted 16 September , 2008 Share Posted 16 September , 2008 Edward Lancaster, born Newington, Surrey, enlisted in the 24th Foot, Regimental Number: 2855, at Hounslow, 23 September 1879 and approved at Brecon on 27 September. He was aged 14, trade given as Musician. Boy service 23 September 1879 to 17 April 1881, Bandsman 18 April 1881 to 8 November 1889, but continued as Boy until 22 September 1883, and was appointed Lance Corporal, Bandsman, 9 November 1889. Discharged on 6 September 1890 having served 10 years 349 days in the UK. His papers are in WO 97/3257 and consist of 12 pages. Regards Bootneck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnab Posted 14 October , 2008 Author Share Posted 14 October , 2008 Edward Lancaster, born Newington, Surrey, enlisted in the 24th Foot, Regimental Number: 2855, at Hounslow, 23 September 1879 and approved at Brecon on 27 September. He was aged 14, trade given as Musician. Boy service 23 September 1879 to 17 April 1881, Bandsman 18 April 1881 to 8 November 1889, but continued as Boy until 22 September 1883, and was appointed Lance Corporal, Bandsman, 9 November 1889. Discharged on 6 September 1890 having served 10 years 349 days in the UK. His papers are in WO 97/3257 and consist of 12 pages. Regards Bootneck Belated thanks for this one! I spoke to the Edward Lancaster's great grandaughter and she told me he always regarded himself as a musician! .................But we have him as being born in yorkshire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 14 October , 2008 Share Posted 14 October , 2008 FREEBMD lists EDWARD MORTIMER LANCASTER born Sept qtr 1865 registered in LEEDS. Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnab Posted 16 October , 2008 Author Share Posted 16 October , 2008 FREEBMD lists EDWARD MORTIMER LANCASTER born Sept qtr 1865 registered in LEEDS. Ralph. Aye that is the very fellow! I tracked down a living relative who confirmed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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