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Private Samuel Ashworth Manchester Regiment


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Hi Pals,

Trying to find more info on Private Samuel Ashworth 1758 Manchester Regiment.

Died 7/5/1917 and buried at Valenciennes (St Roch) Communal Cemetery, as this cemetery was in German hands upto 1918 is it possible that Samuel died whilst a POW?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Garry

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Garry

If you have a read of CWGC write up on the cemetery it states:

III, IV, V and part of VI contain the graves of 348 soldiers buried originally in the German Extension and 226 whose bodies were brought from other cemeteries or from the battlefields.

Samuel is buried at IV. D. 9., so it looks like a post war concentration.

Regards

Mel

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Garry

Samuel's MIC has him recorded as 'Died' - so disease or accidental death.

His date of entry is interesting - 28/1/1915 in F&F plus the fact that he still retained his original four figure number after March 1917.

Was there a TF Company attached to the 2nd Battalion?

Regards

Mel

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His date of entry is interesting - 28/1/1915 in F&F plus the fact that he still retained his original four figure number after March 1917.

If I had to guess, it may be that he was a special reservist, rather than TF.

I'd suggest a PM to Forum member "2nd Manchesters" who has info on a goodly number of casualties and may be able to help.

John

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John

Thanks, that never occurred to me with the four figure number.

regards

Mel

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  • 1 year later...

Received Samuel's Death Certifcate today. Doesn't give a lot of informaton.

Army No. 1758

rank. Private

Name. Ashworth Samuel

Age. 23

Country of Birth. England

DOD. 7.5.1917

Place of Death. France

Cause of Death. Died of Disease

Edit: Also indicates 2nd Battalion - Manchester Regiment

I think I will start afresh. Wish the ICRC would rush through there POW online plans.

Garry

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Working from Samuels age the census shows him where I would like him to be, too conveniant??

Name: Samuel Ashworth

Age: 7

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894

Relation: Son

Father's Name: Edward

Mother's Name: Margaret

Gender: Male

Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Salford

Ecclesiastical parish: Ordsall in Salford St Clement

County/Island: Lancashire

Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Salford

Sub-registration district: Regent Road

ED, institution, or vessel: 45

Neighbors: View others on page

Household schedule number: 92

Household Members: Name Age

Edward Ashworth 33

Margaret Ashworth 33

Edward Ashworth 12

James Ashworth 10

Samuel Ashworth 7

Ethel Ashworth 2

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If anyone is watching?

Found this in Salford City Reporter dated 30th December 1916.

Missing Soldiers

Private S Ashworth

Any information concerning Private Samuel Ashworth, Manchester Regiment, reported "missing" on December 8 in France, will be gratefully received at 32 Rudman St, Salford. On the outbreak of war he was a member of the Special Reserve and was called up and sent on active service at once. Prior to the war he was employed at Victoria Station, Manchester.

So, 6 months from date of Missing to Death.

A lot of the men on the Regent Memorial lived in Rudman St, looking good.

Back to the Library tomorrow with everything crossed.

Garry

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