shred Posted 28 August , 2008 Share Posted 28 August , 2008 Hi Pals, Trying to find more info on Private Samuel Ashworth 1758 Manchester Regiment. Died 7/5/1917 and buried at Valenciennes (St Roch) Communal Cemetery, as this cemetery was in German hands upto 1918 is it possible that Samuel died whilst a POW? Thanks in advance. Regards, Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 28 August , 2008 Share Posted 28 August , 2008 Garry If you have a read of CWGC write up on the cemetery it states: III, IV, V and part of VI contain the graves of 348 soldiers buried originally in the German Extension and 226 whose bodies were brought from other cemeteries or from the battlefields. Samuel is buried at IV. D. 9., so it looks like a post war concentration. Regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted 28 August , 2008 Author Share Posted 28 August , 2008 Thanks Mel, The search continues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 28 August , 2008 Share Posted 28 August , 2008 Garry Samuel's MIC has him recorded as 'Died' - so disease or accidental death. His date of entry is interesting - 28/1/1915 in F&F plus the fact that he still retained his original four figure number after March 1917. Was there a TF Company attached to the 2nd Battalion? Regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 28 August , 2008 Share Posted 28 August , 2008 His date of entry is interesting - 28/1/1915 in F&F plus the fact that he still retained his original four figure number after March 1917. If I had to guess, it may be that he was a special reservist, rather than TF. I'd suggest a PM to Forum member "2nd Manchesters" who has info on a goodly number of casualties and may be able to help. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 28 August , 2008 Share Posted 28 August , 2008 John Thanks, that never occurred to me with the four figure number. regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted 28 August , 2008 Author Share Posted 28 August , 2008 Cheers guys. Will PM 2ndManchesters Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted 9 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 9 September , 2009 Received Samuel's Death Certifcate today. Doesn't give a lot of informaton. Army No. 1758 rank. Private Name. Ashworth Samuel Age. 23 Country of Birth. England DOD. 7.5.1917 Place of Death. France Cause of Death. Died of Disease Edit: Also indicates 2nd Battalion - Manchester Regiment I think I will start afresh. Wish the ICRC would rush through there POW online plans. Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted 9 September , 2009 Author Share Posted 9 September , 2009 Working from Samuels age the census shows him where I would like him to be, too conveniant?? Name: Samuel Ashworth Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894 Relation: Son Father's Name: Edward Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Salford Ecclesiastical parish: Ordsall in Salford St Clement County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Regent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 45 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 92 Household Members: Name Age Edward Ashworth 33 Margaret Ashworth 33 Edward Ashworth 12 James Ashworth 10 Samuel Ashworth 7 Ethel Ashworth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted 14 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 14 October , 2009 If anyone is watching? Found this in Salford City Reporter dated 30th December 1916. Missing Soldiers Private S Ashworth Any information concerning Private Samuel Ashworth, Manchester Regiment, reported "missing" on December 8 in France, will be gratefully received at 32 Rudman St, Salford. On the outbreak of war he was a member of the Special Reserve and was called up and sent on active service at once. Prior to the war he was employed at Victoria Station, Manchester. So, 6 months from date of Missing to Death. A lot of the men on the Regent Memorial lived in Rudman St, looking good. Back to the Library tomorrow with everything crossed. Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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