Paul Hederer Posted 17 September , 2008 Share Posted 17 September , 2008 "I'd like to thank Paul for identifying my 327 shoulder boards and Geo for posting my question on this forum. I appreciate it very much Gentlemen. This is a very informative and interesting thread. Here are a couple of shots of my M07/10 foot artillery tunic on which the boards are temporarily being displayed. The black piped brandenburg cuffs only appeared on tunics from this branch of the artillery. The collar here is a green M15 wartime upgrade, but normally it would be made of the same field grey cloth as the tunic and piped in black. Hans" Hans, Very interesting for me as well. I hadn't known the batteries had their own shoulderstraps. They must be pretty rare items as a lot of the individual batteries were rolled up into battalions in later 1916. Maybe the members continued to wear the straps? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 17 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 17 September , 2008 Egbert, Is your Luger from a battlefield dig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egbert Posted 18 September , 2008 Share Posted 18 September , 2008 Yes and no. See the explanation in my thread which is quoted in my signature further down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 18 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 18 September , 2008 Egbert I remember that thread well, mensch. I just finished the thread again, it took some time. I must admit the photo of your father standing next to his father's grave moistened my eyes again. That was agreat thread, reminds us of the price paid by real families. I am glad I revisited that. Geo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans k. Posted 21 September , 2008 Share Posted 21 September , 2008 Hans, Very interesting for me as well. I hadn't known the batteries had their own shoulderstraps. They must be pretty rare items as a lot of the individual batteries were rolled up into battalions in later 1916. Maybe the members continued to wear the straps? Paul I do vaguely remember reading a reference ages ago mentioning shoulder boards existing for the many Nahkampfbatterien which were formed later in the war, but was never sure if this applied to all branches of artillery let alone my 327 boards. I've had mine for over a decade, and I'm pretty sure I've only seen one other set of foot artillery boards with similarly high numbers. Hans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hederer Posted 21 September , 2008 Share Posted 21 September , 2008 I do vaguely remember reading a reference ages ago mentioning shoulder boards existing for the many Nahkampfbatterien which were formed later in the war, but was never sure if this applied to all branches of artillery let alone my 327 boards. I've had mine for over a decade, and I'm pretty sure I've only seen one other set of foot artillery boards with similarly high numbers. Hans Hello Hans, Prompted by this thread I bought, "The German Army in the First World War, Uniforms and Equipment 1914-1918," by Kraus. A beautiful book--reminds me of something you'd find under the Christmas tree. It mentions in the section on Fussartillerie that the individual heavy batteries used these type of boards and shows some examples. I would imagine they are a pretty rare item. There were a huge number of independent Fussartillerie batteries, but most were rolled up into battalions starting in mid/late 1916, so the timespan these boards would have been in use was relatively short. Probably there are some setting in attics around Germany. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 27 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 27 September , 2008 Came across some excellant photography in wikipedia. German Langer 21 cm mörser (mortar) Model 16, displayed in Hämeenlinna Finnish Artillery Museum. This example was used by Germany, then Sweden and Finland. Photo taken on June 18, 2006. Source: Photo by me, User:Balcer. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...meenlinna_4.jpg A gun near Victoria Barracks, Melbourne, Australia. The gun is labeled as German howitzer, captured on 18-19 Sep 1918 near St Quentin. Apparently a 21 cm Mörser 10. |Source=Own work. |Date=Jan 2007. |Author=User:Bukvoed |Pe) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...Morser-10-2.jpg (German 7.58cm lMW (leichter Minenwerfer) n.A. at the Brussels military museum. {{Information| |Description=German 7.58cm lMW (leichter Minenwerfer) n.A. at the Brussels military museum. Trench mortar - as used in the first world war |Source=own work |Dat) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...minenwerfer.jpg Photograph of German 17 cm Minenwerfer, World War I era, on display at the Australian War Memorial, Canberra. |Source=Peter Beckett |Date=December 2003 |Author=Peter Beckett |Permission=Released under CC-BY 2.5. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...werferAWM-1.jpg front view of a 17 cm mittlerer Minenwerfer 16 a/A (early short-barrel model) at Ft. Sill, OK, by Sturmvogel 66 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/MMW.jpg Rear view of a 25 cm schwere Minenwerfer a/A at Ft. Sill, OK, by Sturmvogel 66 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...25_cm_sMWaA.jpg 7,7 cm Feldkanone 96 neuer Art (7,7 cm FK 96 n.A.) in Light Horse and Field Artillery Museum, Nar Nar Goon, Victoria, Australia. By User:Bukvoed http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...one-96-nA-1.jpg A FK 96 n.A. at the U.S. Army Field Artillery Museum, Ft. Sill, Oklahoma, by Sturmvogel 66 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm.../FK96nArear.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 28 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 28 September , 2008 More photos: Photograph of German 15 cm sFH 13 (15 cm heavy field howitzer 1913). Location : U.S. Army Field Artillery Museum, Ft. Sill, Oklahoma. Source Jason Long en:User:Sturmvogel 66. Date 23 July 2005 by Author Jason Long en:User:Sturmvogel 66. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...ll-July2005.jpg German 15 cm sFH 13 L14 howitzer displayed as a monument in Brantford, Ontario. Date June 9, 2007. By Author Balcer http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...FH-13-L14-1.jpg A German 15 cm sFH02 Howitzer from 1917 located at the South African National Museum of Military Hostory. Date 2007-02-18 by Author NJR ZA http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...owitzer-001.jpg German army 10 cm Kanone 17 (10 cm K 17) field gun (foreground, left). German 10 cm Kanone 14 (background, right). At U.S. Army Field Artillery Museum, Ft. Sill, Oklahoma, USA. Date 23 July 2005. Author Jason Long en:User:Sturmvogel 66 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...l23July2005.jpg German 75mm Feldkanone 16 nA (FK 16 nA) of WWII at the U.S. Army Field Artillery Museum, Ft. Sill, OK. Date 23 July 2005. Author Jason Long en:User:Sturmvogel 66 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...ortSill2005.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 29 September , 2008 Share Posted 29 September , 2008 Please excuse the extended absence - I have been very busy at work whilst also trying to get my own website ready for launch. I have a post brewing on FAR12, based on a really nice group of pictures from this regiment in early 1917, which I successfully cross-referenced with the regimental history at the IWM on saturday. More soon... ARL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMcCulloch Posted 30 September , 2008 Share Posted 30 September , 2008 Russian counter battery fire: 1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeesown Posted 30 September , 2008 Share Posted 30 September , 2008 These two pics may be of interest to you Lads ? From WW1 In Photographs. These two pics may be of interest to you Lads ? From WW1 In Photographs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 1 October , 2008 Share Posted 1 October , 2008 I have a post brewing on FAR12, based on a really nice group of pictures from this regiment in early 1917, which I successfully cross-referenced with the regimental history at the IWM on saturday. Now posted here. ARL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 5 October , 2008 Author Share Posted 5 October , 2008 Check out the beautiful Saxon FAR helmet, Schirmmütze and Waffenrock. Submitted from Tony of Kaiser's Bunker. Just fantastic (as always!). http://www.pickelhaubes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3898 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 6 October , 2008 Share Posted 6 October , 2008 Check out the beautiful Saxon FAR helmet, Schirmmütze and Waffenrock. Submitted from Tony of Kaiser's Bunker. Just fantastic (as always!). Magnificent! I can only prevent myself exploding with envy due to the fact that it is not specifically from FAR 48... ARL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest puigdendolas Posted 16 October , 2010 Share Posted 16 October , 2010 Sorry for my bad english. In 2 september 2008 post by Cnock, there is a photo of three artillery pieces with her crews, identified like 7,7 cm FK 16. I think don't so, for me these pieces are howitzers LeFH 16 10,5 cm, the barrel is more short than 7,7 cm, and the same is united to the recuperator with a continuous support (Sorry but I don't know what is the correct artillery designation for this part of gun), whereas in the 7,7 cm this support is discontinuous, whith two braces. Thanks and good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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