Cnock Posted 2 September , 2008 Share Posted 2 September , 2008 7,7 cm field gun used as Ballon Abwehr Kanone To reduce the recoil a heavy weight has been attached under the barrel Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 2 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 2 September , 2008 Easy to forget that Anti-Aircraft tactics were a new career field and so were the tACTICS & EQUIPMENT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delta Posted 2 September , 2008 Share Posted 2 September , 2008 Not daft at all! The Heer was term used for the German armed forces between 1935 - 1945. Wehrmacht was the term used for the German Armee 1935-1945. Armee or in English, Army, is the term used for the Alte Armee before 1919. Reichswehr was the term used for the Versailles restricted National Defense Army 1919-1935. Thanks for that - I recall hat Bundeswehr helicopters used to have markings "HEER" - has the term reappeared again? Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Hederer Posted 2 September , 2008 Share Posted 2 September , 2008 Easy to forget that Anti-Aircraft tactics were a new career field and so were the tACTICS & EQUIPMENT. No kidding, Rare photo of weapons testing on one of the first AA weapons in the German army. s.S.s n/A (schwere Steinschleuder, neuer Art) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 2 September , 2008 Share Posted 2 September , 2008 15 cm Ringkanone Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 2 September , 2008 Share Posted 2 September , 2008 7,7 cm FK 16 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 2 September , 2008 Share Posted 2 September , 2008 15 cm sFH02 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 2 September , 2008 Share Posted 2 September , 2008 15 cm Ringkanone Cnock A timely reminder of the intimate involvement of the gunners in chemical warfare - both, increasingly, as the primary delivery mechanism and as the primary target for enemy gas shells. From 7th to 25th October 1916, 4. and 5. Batteries / FAR 48 (both armed with 10.5cm lFH) were detached from the regiment and used as reinforcing artillery for 17. Res. Div. Firing from North of Le Mesnil they delivered concentrated fire against the artillery supporting the allied drive on Sailly-Saillissel. Using Green Cross (phosgene), they reached a peak daily rate of fire of 400 rounds per gun (though I am not sure from my IWM notes here whether they were exclusively using gas shells to achieve this figure). The working environment for the kanonier whilst engaged in these counter-battery 'gas duels' must have been ghastly, most especially after both sides started making heavy use of mustard gas. My GGF, incidentally, was extremely hard of hearing when he returned from the war. ARL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 2 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 2 September , 2008 No kidding, Rare photo of weapons testing on one of the first AA weapons in the German army. s.S.s n/A (schwere Steinschleuder, neuer Art) This low tech solution has given me stomach cramps! lol! Paul are you sure it's not a schwere Steinschleuder a.A.? (lmao!). Thanks for that - I recall hat Bundeswehr helicopters used to have markings "HEER" - has the term reappeared again? Stephen Yes it is! Did anyone get a chance to check the link on post# 75 for that gorgeous FAR 49 ensamble? Cnock, your collection of photos is excellant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 2 September , 2008 Share Posted 2 September , 2008 George, thanks part of crew 7,7 cm FK Cnock George, thanks part of crew 7,7 cm FK Cnock January 1918 Iron crosses 2nd Class for members of Reserve Field Artillerie Rgt nr.50 Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeesown Posted 2 September , 2008 Share Posted 2 September , 2008 Hi you Lads have probably seen this one but I`ll put it in anyway. pic from First World War in Photographs ( Imperial War Museum ) Richard Holmes> all the best Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 2 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 2 September , 2008 dundeesown Thanks for posting! Does the book mention the location of the photo. Can you tell whether or not the bayonets are M71's or Artillery Seitengewehre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 2 September , 2008 Share Posted 2 September , 2008 George, the man left of the gun breach is wearing I believe an Seitengewehr 1864 umgeändertes Muster (U/M) Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 2 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 2 September , 2008 Cnoch Is that a quillback type bayonet like the S1860? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 2 September , 2008 Share Posted 2 September , 2008 George, it is not a bayonet, I have the same one, it has a slightly curved blade ( old French blade) visible on the pic of dundeesown. Normally I have a pic of it, but cannot find it. Mine is marked L.M. (Landwehr Munitionskolonne) Copies of it are made in India, since some 15 years. Regards, Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 3 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 3 September , 2008 Ah yes, that one is the broader blade sort of like a machete in appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeesown Posted 3 September , 2008 Share Posted 3 September , 2008 dundeesown Thanks for posting! Does the book mention the location of the photo. Can you tell whether or not the bayonets are M71's or Artillery Seitengewehre? Hi I`m sorry book has no Location for German field gun. Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 3 September , 2008 Share Posted 3 September , 2008 Hi, picture most probably taken at training site. Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 3 September , 2008 Share Posted 3 September , 2008 George, Seitengewehr 1864 U/M compared with its Saxon counterpart (middle) and bayonet mod.1871 Regards, Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 3 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 3 September , 2008 Cnock Took me a while to type a response, not only did I have to change my shirt from drooling, had to pop my eyeballs back in their sockets! Absolutely excellant! My collection of bayonets is mostly gear towards ones issued with Gew 88's, but I have always admired the Artillery models. I only have a matching S71 with regimental for the Saxon 108th, probably my favorite. Very nice indeed, thanks for posting those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bierast Posted 3 September , 2008 Share Posted 3 September , 2008 Very interesting to see the artillery shortswords(?) and especially the Saxon model! My GGF - Gefreiter Arno Bierast of FAR48, La Ville aux Bois / Juvincourt sector, July 1916...apparently equipped as a fahrer on this occasion, and now wearing a vereinfachte tunic with plain cuffs: Interesting to note that his bayonet is just about visible here: Arno complains that the horse wouldn't stay still for the photo: Previous topic with further images here. Unfortunately this one is the latest dated picture of Arno from WW1 that we possess - nothing has so far turned up for 1917-18, though his CV clearly states that he served for the duration. We suspect that further service mementoes were lost when my GGM's cashbox was stolen many years ago - it definitely contained his Iron Cross (class unknown, I never saw it), 'Hindenburg Cross' and (Royal Saxon) St Henry Medal in Bronze. ARL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyliecoyote Posted 3 September , 2008 Author Share Posted 3 September , 2008 Andi Thanks for the link, it is very cool that you can track the military service of a relative from so many years ago. The jumpy horse explains his expression, lol. Can you tell what type of bayonet he is armed with? Hard to tell from the scan. That and what ever was under his tunic is obscuring the bayonet scabbard. Geo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 3 September , 2008 Share Posted 3 September , 2008 Andi, the Saxon shortsword was not intented for artillery, mine is marked 107 R Regards, Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 4 September , 2008 Share Posted 4 September , 2008 Caption says here : coastal gun at the Somme Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnock Posted 4 September , 2008 Share Posted 4 September , 2008 21 cm Mörser Cnock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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