Gunner Bailey Posted 10 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 10 January , 2009 There is an oval makers mark which starts with a M**, and has Pot** underneath before it becomes unreadable. I am assuming it is Moira Pottery Co Ltd. Gareth Gareth I'd agree with you on Moira Pottery. If you do get the jar wicker covered can you post a photo? I'm sure many people would be interested. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 12 January , 2009 Share Posted 12 January , 2009 GB Interesting to see Tocemma's posts of 2 Jan concerning the sale of RN rum jars. Two things to say,from one who used to blend and pack these jars, and various sizes of cask, (hic!): 1) the rum in the jars was 95.5 proof, and in casks 96.5 proof,the standard for all issue-strength rum (as opposed to overproof rum in supplier's barrels for blending),and, 2) Only one service would have packed the rum (RN Suppy and Transport Service). It was supplied as required to the RN to meet the daily "tot" regime,and to specific order from other Services on Vote Payment ( that is it wasn't free, as with the RN). I just realised that my store MIGHT have packed these !!! Sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 13 January , 2009 Share Posted 13 January , 2009 Did all the wicker covers cover the complete jar, including the shoulders to the to top? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T8HANTS Posted 13 January , 2009 Share Posted 13 January , 2009 Did all the wicker covers cover the complete jar, including the shoulders to the to top? Mick With the jars we had in our paint store, the wicker came up to the shoulder of the jar. This why I can remember that some, not all were marked SRD. They were used to decant thinners from the drums to the bench and job. They had been there for ages. What I cannot remember was if there were handles made into the top of the basket. G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 13 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 13 January , 2009 Did all the wicker covers cover the complete jar, including the shoulders to the to top? Mick Mick All the wicker covered jars I've seen in photos or real life have been covered up to the top of the 'cone', leaving the collar free. The wicker that covers the top of the jar is a separate piece from the main covering. It is possible that some jars may have lost the top part of the wicker. Is that what you were thinking? Also Many thanks to the moderator moved this thread to the 'Classic Threads' section. It's greatly appreciated. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 14 January , 2009 Share Posted 14 January , 2009 I have seen a couple of jars entirely covered, but I'm fairly certain they were local brewery items. What I would like to do is to make a container along the pattern in the pictures above and try to find some wicker covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 14 January , 2009 Author Share Posted 14 January , 2009 I have seen a couple of jars entirely covered, but I'm fairly certain they were local brewery items. What I would like to do is to make a container along the pattern in the pictures above and try to find some wicker covers. Mick Whilst you are out in France you may want to have a look at the wicker workshops at Le Boisle (about 10k SSW of Hesdin on the D928). They might be able to wicker up a jar for you. There are a couple of them at that location. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonmate Posted 14 January , 2009 Share Posted 14 January , 2009 Mick, Yes,the body of the jar was woven seperately and the top woven in it's shape and then they were joined with a wicker strand (or two). The handles were part of the body. Sotonmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 10 February , 2009 Author Share Posted 10 February , 2009 On Sunday I was at the Militaria Fair in Ham (France) and saw a half gallon SRD by Price of Bristol. It had some cracks around the neck so I didn't buy it (someone did a few minutes later though), but I thought it is interesting to see who made the smaller jars. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 2 May , 2009 Author Share Posted 2 May , 2009 I've just bought a 1/2 Gallon SRD which I think may be from Moira Pottery but am unsure. The base has a large stamped mark but it is quite feint. It is 3 1/4 by 2 1/2 inches in size which is quite big. Any help appreciated. Photos attached. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 9 August , 2009 Share Posted 9 August , 2009 I have noticed half gallon one sold on ebay just now with a maker I've not seen before. MOTTISHAW & BRADSHAW CASTLEFORD So the list is now.... Barker Pottery Chesterfield Batesons Bourne Denby F Brayne & Co Ltd London Buchan Portobello Edinburgh W Buchan & Co Potteries Portobello Midlothian G Carder & Sons Leys Pottery Brierley Hill Caledonian Rutherglew Covancroft Pottery co Ltd Glasgow Doulton & Co Ltd Lambeth Fossil Pottery Glasgow Fulham Pottery Gibbs Canning Ltd Tamworth Grosvenor Glasgow Hunts Patent Liverpool Kennedy Barrowfield Potteries Glasgow Lovatts Langley Ware England Moira Pottery Co Ltd Mottishaw & Bradshaw Castleford Price Bristol C Phillips & Son Castleford James Pearson Ltd Chesterfield Pearson & Co The Potteries Whittington Moor nr Chesterfield The Pottery Fulham London Robinson Jack Lane Pottery Leeds Skey Tamworth Port Dundas Pottery Co Glasgow E Potter Whittington Moor nr Chesterfield Wallace Belfast E Wright & Co Ltd Chesterfield Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 23 August , 2009 Author Share Posted 23 August , 2009 Thanks Mick I think this is one of the rarest makers. I got one of their jars last year and it took a while to decipher the stamp. I had to buy a rare book about Castleford Potteries to learn about them. There is one maker who keeps eluding me. Their stamp is a tiny oval shape about half an inch across, with seemingly no details in it. I bought one of these this summer and they have one in the La Targette museum. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 23 August , 2009 Share Posted 23 August , 2009 Next week and week after we will be visiting as many markets and antique shops as possible so will keep an eye out. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 23 August , 2009 Author Share Posted 23 August , 2009 Next week and week after we will be visiting as many markets and antique shops as possible so will keep an eye out. Mick Good luck Mick. Did you see my post 210# about the large oval stamp? I did think this might be Moira but I now have a Moira jar and the stamp is quite small. So this must be another unknown maker. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 24 August , 2009 Share Posted 24 August , 2009 There is one maker who keeps eluding me. Their stamp is a tiny oval shape about half an inch across, with seemingly no details in it. John It's not a lightly stamped Bourne is it? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 25 August , 2009 Author Share Posted 25 August , 2009 It's not a lightly stamped Bourne is it? Mick Hi Mick, I think you are right. I've compared it in size to a Bourne impressed mark I have on a dye bottle and they are the same size. I find it odd though that Bourne marks are normally one of the clearest marks in pottery yet the two SRD's I've seen with this mark are just feint ovals where you can see no detail. very strange. Here's some photos. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 25 August , 2009 Share Posted 25 August , 2009 John, not clear at all on mine, can just make it out. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 25 August , 2009 Author Share Posted 25 August , 2009 John, not clear at all on mine, can just make it out. Mick Well at least that's another mystery solved and people can learn from our common experience of Bourne jars. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 26 August , 2009 Share Posted 26 August , 2009 John I think you have just validated Tricias opinion of us obsessive collectors. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 26 August , 2009 Author Share Posted 26 August , 2009 John I think you have just validated Tricias opinion of us obsessive collectors. Mick Mmmmmm, possibly Mick. Even my wife has got used to us having a conservatory full of SRD jars now! I'll post a photo of them all soon. I had thought my new mystery jar (post 210#) may have been a Price Bristol, but it's not, so a genuine new one. I may have to track down an u/v lamp to try to read the mark. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcy67 Posted 6 October , 2009 Share Posted 6 October , 2009 I've just bought a 1/2 Gallon SRD which I think may be from Moira Pottery but am unsure. The base has a large stamped mark but it is quite feint. It is 3 1/4 by 2 1/2 inches in size which is quite big. Any help appreciated. Photos attached. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffcy67 Posted 6 October , 2009 Share Posted 6 October , 2009 Bonjour John, I just got a similar jar, with same kind of stamp, except that is a bit more readable. I suppose it is something like : BLACK & SHAWN LD COR or GOR---- ??? Maybe somebody can help us on that. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 6 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 6 October , 2009 Bonjour John, I just got a similar jar, with same kind of stamp, except that is a bit more readable. I suppose it is something like : BLACK & SHAWN LD COR or GOR---- ??? Maybe somebody can help us on that. Jeff Thanks Jeff, I will investgate! Watch this space (hopefully). John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 7 October , 2009 Share Posted 7 October , 2009 Jeff Can we have a picture of the stamp and the SRD marking? That maker isn't on our list. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner Bailey Posted 8 October , 2009 Author Share Posted 8 October , 2009 Jeff Can we have a picture of the stamp and the SRD marking? That maker isn't on our list. Mick I've not been able to find it in my pottery reference books either. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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