Tony Lund Posted 27 July , 2008 Share Posted 27 July , 2008 Can someone please check this lad’s family on the 1901 census for me? He is William Rose, the son of Police Constable Thomas Rose and Mary Anne Rose. Willie is recorded as born at Lightcliffe, Yorkshire, in Soldiers Died, but his father seems to have served in various places before settling in the Holmfirth / New Mill area of Yorkshire. I have always thought that Willie had two brothers, one called John Alexander, who was wounded and taken prisoner, and one other - whose name I did not know. But I have now seen a photograph of Willie and his father with two brothers named Robert and Thomas - all in uniform - but no mention of John. So what I need to know now is how many are in this family and their names so I can check what I think I know about the family is correct. I believe Constable Rose was originally from Stourminster in Dorset but had been in Yorkshire for many years before the war, first at Halifax and then at Holmfirth. Thanks, Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 27 July , 2008 Share Posted 27 July , 2008 Tony The 1901 census entry: Name: Thomas Rose Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Male Where born: Stourminster, Dorset, England Civil Parish: Hipperholme Ecclesiastical parish: Lightcliffe St Matthew County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Halifax Sub registration district: Brighouse ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 277 Household Members: Name Age John A Rose 3 Mary Ann Rose 31 Mary E Rose 7 Pery L Rose 6 Robert Rose 2 Thomas Rose 32 Thomas Rose 1 regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lund Posted 27 July , 2008 Author Share Posted 27 July , 2008 Thank you Mel. 3 brothers there alright, I wonder where Willie has got to? He was mobilised with the local territorials in August 1914, but was almost certainly a little under the correct age for overseas service when he was killed in 1915. Thanks again, Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 27 July , 2008 Share Posted 27 July , 2008 Tony It looks as if he was staying with his grandparents at the time of the census. Was Donnelly the maiden name of Mary Anne? Otherwise it looks as if you could have a glitch with Lavinia but probably some pi$$ed enumerator. Name: William Rose Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897 Relation: Grandson Mother's Name: Lavinia E Gender: Male Where born: Lightcliffe, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Wortley Ecclesiastical parish: Tong Road St Mary County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Bramley Sub registration district: Wortley [Near Leeds] ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 201 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Donnelly 57 John Donnelly 57 Lavinia E Lee 28 William Rose 4 Regards Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted 27 July , 2008 Share Posted 27 July , 2008 Hi Just to let you know William was with his Grandparents on census night. Thomas Rose married Mary Ann Don(n)el(l)y Marriages Mar 1893 Donley Mary Ann Bramley 9b 386 Rose Thomas Bramley 9b 386 ------------------------------------------------------------ 1901 Name: William Rose Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897 Relation: Grandson Mother's Name: Lavinia E This is wrong she's his aunt Gender: Male Where born: Lightcliffe, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Wortley Ecclesiastical parish: Tong Road St Mary County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View Image Registration district: Bramley Sub registration district: Wortley [Near Leeds] ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 201 Household Members: Name Age Ellen Donnelly 57 John Donnelly 57 Lavinia E Lee 28 Daughter William Rose 4 grand son [/color] Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelPack Posted 27 July , 2008 Share Posted 27 July , 2008 Mel Do you think that I was right about the lack of sobriety on the part of the enumerator? Regards Mel PS You have a great name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lund Posted 27 July , 2008 Author Share Posted 27 July , 2008 Thank you both, another little mystery solved. Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mts Posted 27 July , 2008 Share Posted 27 July , 2008 Mel you were definitely right !! And I agree about our name He he!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin.j Posted 27 July , 2008 Share Posted 27 July , 2008 Tony Can't tell any more about Willie, but I can about his father's police service. Joined West Riding Constabulary 17 July 1893 and posted to Brighouse. Moved to Bailiff Bridge 1895, Hepworth, Huddersfield Division 1902 and Scholes 1912 where he remained until retirement in 1919. He died 27 November 1944 at Loscoe, Derbyshire, aged 76. Colin Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lund Posted 7 August , 2008 Author Share Posted 7 August , 2008 Thank you Colin, I have only just noticed your post. I know the family were living at Scholes during the war. The people who live in that house now found a little memorial to Willie Rose carved in a stone under the window during renovations. They built it into the side of the fireplace to preserve it. Thanks again, Tony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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