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Difficult with the Kings Own officers-if they are wearing A 'T' on their lapels under the lion I would hazard a guess at 1/5th Battalion. I don't recognise them as officers of the 1/4th. Both units spent time at Sevenoaks in 1914/15. The Regimental museum has pics of both sets of officers on their website though at low res/size. An email of the officers to the curator, Peter Donnelly might produce an id for one or more of them. Here is the address;

kingsownmuseum@iname.com

Here is a link to the photo gallery for the 1/5th officers

http://www.kingsownmuseum.plus.com/gallerywwone009.htm

No luck on the Private soldier this time!

Anthony

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Here's one I'm having doubts over. At first I thought this was Kent Cyclist Battalion (based on page 449, Head-Dress Badges Kipling/King), but now I think it may be Kent Yeomanry. Notice the scroll shapes beneath the horse are different on collar and cap. Thompson 1103, 1122, 1123..

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This chap also appears in two group photos showing two other officers, in each case the one on the right being from the Queen's Own West Kent Regt. Also named to Thompson 1104, 1124.

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Here we have plates showing an officer named Thompson from the QORWKR (whose identity could be Edgar Victor Thompson of 6 Marine Parade Folkstone, thanks Matthew). Do you think this the same man as the group photos above? enlargements of the group photos on the left (1104, 1124) and close-ups of the portrait plates on the right (1120, 1119). In particular look at the ears and mouth.

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The third man in the group photo also has a likeness to plate named Thompson of the South Lancashire Regt (1121). Left to right 1104, 1124, 1121.

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Do you think we have three brothers of the Thompson family here? One in the QORWKR, one in the Kent Yeomanry (notice he's been promoted to Captain in plate 1123), and one who has not been posted to a regiment in the group photos, but who late joins the South Lancs? Or am I trying to join too many dots? What do you think?

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Hi,

I think that pics 1104 and 1124 might be the same man, if you look at the ears in both photos the left one is slightly higher than the right, and the right sticks out slightly more than the left.

Not sure about the man in photo 1121 but there is some likeness.

Stuart

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Jonathan,

I hope you don't mind me advising the Australian War Memorial's photography archivists of the discovery and your work, they have a major project going at the moment to find photographs of the 102,000 Australians who died during active service.

http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/2008/04/14/roll...ur-photographs/

I am sure it could be mutually worthwhile for both institutions,

cheers,

Chris H

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from 1901 census:

Edgar V Thompson

Age: 6

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895

Relation: Son

Father's Name: Simon P

Mother's Name: Anna M C

Gender: Male

Where born: Hawkinge, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Hawkinge

Ecclesiastical parish: Hawkinge with Swingfield St Michael

County/Island: Kent

Country: England

Registration district: Elham

Sub registration district: Folkestone

ED, institution, or vessel: 21

Neighbors: View others on page

Household schedule number: 20

Household Members: Name Age

Frederick E Bailey 15

Anna M C Thompson 46

Christabelle Thompson 15

Edgar V Thompson 6

Frank W Thompson 19

Geoffrey Thompson 10

Harrold W Thompson 11

Marie H Thompson 18

Simon P Thompson 44

Henrietta J Webster 76

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To me ,the faces in post 205(above)all apear to be the same person,the chin,the bottom lip,the ear shape.The experience of war possibly shows in his facial expression change?His eyes.He looks a million miles away..fiona

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Hi Barke02

Superb thread, I wonder if you can help, I am looking for a Major or 2nd Lt Marmaduke Ibbetson Wyvill who was with the 15th Rifle Brigade, its a long shot but he may just have passed through Sevenoaks.

Any help would be appreciated.

Russ

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And without his lemon squeezer.

Williams in the Rifle Brigade- could be any of these

1) Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Albert

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 25/1043

Rank Driver

Next of Kin Title Mrs Charlotte

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Herbert Street Greymouth

Roll 23

Page 2

Occupation Labourer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=62097

2)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Alexander Kenn

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 26727

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs B J

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address C/- Clelland New Windsor Road Avondale Auckland

Roll 41

Page 39

Occupation Hospital Attendant

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=78105

3)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Ambrose Patterson

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 25/1039

Rank OR Clerk

Next of Kin Title Mrs E A

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address 87 Ghuznee Street Wellington

Roll 24

Page 10

Occupation Clerk

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=62830

4)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Archie Brome

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 24/2120

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Joseph

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Masterton

Roll 26

Page 33

Occupation Carpenter

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=65542

5)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Archie Owen

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 48127

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs M

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Waverley

Roll 67

Page 35

Occupation Grocer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=95290

6)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Arthur Francis

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 35054

Rank Corporal

Next of Kin Title Mrs F

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Wyndham Southland

Roll 49

Page 15

Occupation Dental Mechanic

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=82742

7)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Arthur George

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 20268

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs H C

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address Rissington Hawkes Bay

Roll 38

Page 33

Occupation Carrier

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=75986

8)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Arthur Owen

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 23/646

Rank Rifleman

Body or Draft 1st NZRB

Unit or Regiment B Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address Hawera

Next of Kin Title Mrs H M

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Mokoia via Hawera

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58605

9)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Arthur William

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 24/326

Rank Rifleman

Body or Draft 2nd NZRB

Unit or Regiment A Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address Tangowahine

Next of Kin Title Mrs H C

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Parua Bay Whangarei

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58608

10)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Bright Ernest

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 14896

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Albert

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Rissington Napier

Roll 34

Page 39

Occupation Labourer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=34770

11) Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Charles Frederick

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 25/373

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Henry

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Park Street Hokitika

Roll 24

Page 13

Occupation Clerk

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=62995

12)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Charles John

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 26/1554

Rank Corporal

Next of Kin Title G A

Next of Kin Surname GREGORY

Next of Kin Relationship Friend

Next of Kin Address Te Rangi Mercer

Roll 27

Page 14

Occupation Labourer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=66125

13)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Charles Thomas

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 41378

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Nurse A E

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Sister

Next of Kin Address C/- C Jervis Aston Upthorp Wallingford Berks England

Roll 60

Page 20

Occupation Station-manager

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=90209

14)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Charles

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 23/2116

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs M E C

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address 2 Keith Street Wanganui

Roll 27

Page 4

Occupation Carpenter

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=65686

15)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Charles

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 24824

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs A

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Munns Cottage Newmarket Otley Yorkshire England

Roll 38

Page 36

Occupation Miner

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=76130

16)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Colin Sydney

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 23/647

Rank Rifleman

Body or Draft 1st NZRB

Unit or Regiment B Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address Tuparoa Gisborne

Next of Kin Title T S

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Tuparoa Gisborne

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=16923

17)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Cyril Ernest

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 20269

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title C H

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Kaitoke

Roll 38

Page 33

Occupation Farmer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=16924

18)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Daniel Walton

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 5/560

Rank Driver

Body or Draft NZRB

Unit or Regiment Army Service Corps

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address McVay St Napier

Next of Kin Title Miss R U

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Niece

Next of Kin Address 7 Marine Parade Napier

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58617

19)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Danvers

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 25/151

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title H P

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address 111 Central Hall Upper Norwood England

Roll 24

Page 9

Occupation Farmer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=16926

20)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name David Caradoc

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 26/1750

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title N S

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Schoolhouse Llansilen Oswestry Wales England

Roll 27

Page 13

Occupation Clerk

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=16927

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21)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name David John

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 24/1517

Rank Rifleman

Body or Draft 2nd Rfts of 2nd NZRB

Unit or Regiment F Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address C/- Mrs H Davis Ohakune

Next of Kin Title Mrs M J

Next of Kin Surname DAVIS

Next of Kin Relationship Sister

Next of Kin Address Clyde St Ohakune

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58619

22)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name David Owen

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 24/1232

Rank Lance-Corpl

Body or Draft 2nd NZRB

Unit or Regiment Machine Gun Section

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address 102 Pine St Masterton

Next of Kin Title Mrs A

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address 102 Pine St Masterton

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58620

23)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Edward Francis

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 47102

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs E

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Washdyke South Canterbury

Roll 62

Page 37

Occupation Labourer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=92102

24)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Edward

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 23919

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title D

Next of Kin Surname PILMER

Next of Kin Relationship Friend

Next of Kin Address 246 Lambton Quay Wellington

Roll 38

Page 39

Occupation Labourer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=76272

25)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Eric Lawrence

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 23320

Rank Corporal

Next of Kin Title V J

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Waiuku

Roll 33

Page 26

Occupation Teacher

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=70551

26)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Eric

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 24/605

Rank Lance-Corpl

Body or Draft 2nd NZRB

Unit or Regiment B Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address C/- H Williams and Sons Napier

Next of Kin Title R L

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address C/- H Williams and Sons Napier

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58628

27)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Ernest Edwin

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 32270

Rank Lance-Corpl

Next of Kin Title Mrs Harry

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address PO Box 266 Gisborne

Roll 45

Page 26

Occupation Farmer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=80796

28)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Francis Alfred

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 23/1874

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs E

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address 33 Harbour Terrace Dunedin

Roll 15

Page 6

Occupation Hatter

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=59675

29)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Francis

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 32411

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs Bertha

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address Studholme Street Temuka

Roll 45

Page 30

Occupation Carter

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=81026

30)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Frank Bernard

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 23/955

Rank Corporal

Body or Draft 1st NZRB

Unit or Regiment C Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address C/- R B Williams Union Steamship Company Dunedin

Next of Kin Title Robert Bernard

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address C/- Union Steamship Company Dunedin

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=16931

31) Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Frank Clifford

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 3/1105

Rank Private

Body or Draft NZRB

Unit or Regiment Medical Corps

Marital Status M

Last NZ Address Te Pah Church St Northcote Auckland

Next of Kin Title Mrs George

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address Te Pah Church St Northcote Auckland

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58634

32)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Frederick Henry

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 23/1497

Rank Rifleman

Body or Draft 2nd Rfts of 1st NZRB

Unit or Regiment E Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address Napier

Next of Kin Title Mrs T

Next of Kin Surname KINGWELL

Next of Kin Relationship Sister

Next of Kin Address Cocksite Plymouth England

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58639

33)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Frederick Percy

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 23/2302

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs G

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Wellsford Auckland

Roll 27

Page 4

Occupation Farmer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=16936

34)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Frederick Stanley

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 30330

Rank Private

Next of Kin Title Mrs R G

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address 55 Worksop Road Masterton

Roll 49

Page 11

Occupation Fencer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=82570

35)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Frederick Tudor

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 24/616

Rank Rifleman

Body or Draft 2nd NZRB

Unit or Regiment B Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address Clyde Central Otago

Next of Kin Title Miss A

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Sister

Next of Kin Address Clyde Central Otago

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58641

36)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Garnet Victor

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 23/2303

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title E

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Waiuku Auckland

Roll 27

Page 4

Occupation Bootmaker

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=65687

37)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name George Edward

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 26/933

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs S A

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Kawakawa Bay of Islands

Roll 24

Page 21

Occupation Tailor

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=63366

38)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name George Richard

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 61471

Rank Corporal

Next of Kin Title John R

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Post-office Braeburn Nelson

Roll 75

Page 21

Occupation Station Hand

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...iginalID=102630

39)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name George

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 35138

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs M J

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address C/- J Legross Cust Canterbury

Roll 49

Page 14

Occupation Labourer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=82719

40)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name George

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 29686

Rank Sergeant

Next of Kin Title Mrs C E

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address 15A Hutchison Street Sydenham Christchurch

Roll 47

Page 11

Occupation Musterer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=81898

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41)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Gough

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 12523

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Albert

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Rissington Hawkes Bay

Roll 31

Page 19

Occupation Labourer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=69013

42)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Harold Herbert

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 25/1838

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs Rosie

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address Commercial Hotel Wanganui

Roll 27

Page 10

Occupation Bushman

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=65971

43)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Harry

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 4/1079

Rank Corporal

Body or Draft NZRB

Unit or Regiment Divisional Signallers

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address Winton Southland

Next of Kin Title H

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address 18 Terrace Rd Portsmouth England

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58649

44)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Henry Llewellyn

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 21927

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title John

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Maronan Hinds Canterbury

Roll 38

Page 36

Occupation Farmer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=16946

45)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Henry Richard

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 24/1864

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs E

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Tahu Thames

Roll 15

Page 10

Occupation Storeman

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=16947

46)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Henry Thomas

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 23/1506

Rank Rifleman

Body or Draft 2nd Rfts of 1st NZRB

Unit or Regiment E Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address 6 Spencer Rd Napier

Next of Kin Title George Stephen

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Brother

Next of Kin Address 6 Spencer Rd Napier

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58652

47)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Henry

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 26/31

Rank Corporal

Next of Kin Title Henry

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Park Street Hokitika

Roll 15

Page 11

Occupation Clerk

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=59957

48)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Herbert Harold

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 45627

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title The Hon R K

Next of Kin Surname SIMPSON

Next of Kin Relationship Friend

Next of Kin Address Bonny Glen Marton

Roll 59

Page 19

Occupation Motor-driver

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=89408

49)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Herbert Spencer

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 51939

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs M

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Strickland Street Christchurch

Roll 67

Page 38

Occupation Plumber

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=95445

50)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Herbert

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 56491

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Miss Blanche

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Sister

Next of Kin Address Brunnerton Westland

Roll 70

Page 30

Occupation Clerk

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=99394

51)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name James Albert

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 25658

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs Lilian

Next of Kin Surname TAYLOR

Next of Kin Relationship Sister

Next of Kin Address Boundary Road Birkdale Southport England

Roll 41

Page 36

Occupation Clerk

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=77954

52)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name James Gordon

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 24/1518

Rank Lance-Corpl

Body or Draft 2nd Rfts of 2nd NZRB

Unit or Regiment F Company

Marital Status M

Last NZ Address St Johns Hill Auckland

Next of Kin Title James

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Jeweller Wanganui

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=58666

53)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name James William

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 52910

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title G

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Egmont Street Patea

Roll 68

Page 12

Occupation Cab-driver

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=96001

54)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name James William

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 20270

Rank Lance-Corpl

Next of Kin Title John

Next of Kin Surname PEACH

Next of Kin Relationship Trustee

Next of Kin Address Tramway Shed Napier

Roll 38

Page 30

Occupation Tramway Hand

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=16952

55)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name James

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 12315

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs James

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address GPO Sydney New South Wales

Roll 31

Page 22

Occupation Saddler

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=69161

56)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name James

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 53455

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs Clara

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address 7 Begg Street Kaikorai Dunedin

Roll 68

Page 15

Occupation Piecer

http://muse.aucklandmuseum.com/databases/c...riginalID=96183

57) Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name James

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 26/286

Rank Driver

Next of Kin Title Mrs James

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Childers Road Gisborne

Comment Born in Australia

Roll 23

Page 2

Occupation Fencer

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58)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name John Edward

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 26728

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs E

Next of Kin Surname GAMBLING

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Paeroa

Roll 41

Page 39

Occupation Farmer

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59)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name John

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 18729

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title W K

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Paparangi Station Kereru

Roll 37

Page 16

Occupation Shepherd

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60)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name John

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 29956

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs J

Next of Kin Surname CLELLAND

Next of Kin Relationship Sister

Next of Kin Address Otama Southland

Roll 43

Page 35

Occupation Labourer

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61)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name John

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 23/322

Rank Rifleman

Body or Draft 1st NZRB

Unit or Regiment A Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address 18 Park Rd Khyber Pass Auckland

Next of Kin Title R

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address 3 Corwena Terrace Corwen North Wales

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62)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name John

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 45302

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title W

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Cobden Greymouth

Roll 59

Page 19

Occupation Plumber

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63)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Joseph Henry

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 41457

Rank Sergeant

Next of Kin Title Mrs E A H

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address C/- Mrs Hanan 18 Cowie Road Parnell Auckland

Roll 68

Page 10

Occupation Jeweller

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64)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Keith Gastar

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 23/649

Rank Corporal

Body or Draft 1st NZRB

Unit or Regiment B Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address Liverpool St Wanganui

Next of Kin Title Rev A O

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Liverpool St Wanganui

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65)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Laury Salter

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 25765

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title T R

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Russell Bay of Islands

Roll 41

Page 36

Occupation Butcher

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66) Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Leo Ryan

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 24/617

Rank Rifleman

Body or Draft 2nd NZRB

Unit or Regiment B Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address Clyde

Next of Kin Title Mrs T

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Clyde Otago

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67)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Maddren

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 55654

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs Eliza

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address St Andrews Canterbury

Roll 70

Page 30

Occupation Shepherd

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68)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Owen Wallis

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 23/1875

Rank Captain

Next of Kin Title Mrs O W

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address 75 Austin Street Wellington

Roll 16

Page 1

Occupation Schoolmaster

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69)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Patrick

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 14897

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs G

Next of Kin Surname HENDERSON

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Mangamutu Pahiatua

Roll 34

Page 39

Occupation Driver

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70)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Percy Lawrence

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 20271

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title C H

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Kaitoke

Roll 38

Page 33

Occupation Farm Hand

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71)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Philip Swain

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 23301

Rank Sergeant

Next of Kin Title William Swain

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address 12 Wynyard Road Mount Eden Auckland

Roll 33

Page 26

Occupation Clerk

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72)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Ralph

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 25/840

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs M

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address 23 Wakefield Street Auckland

Roll 24

Page 5

Occupation Driver

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73)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Rees Francis Andrew

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 20585

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title W A

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Halcombe

Roll 38

Page 39

Occupation Butcher

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74)Surname WILLIAM

Given Name Reginald John

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 35506

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs E R

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Hillersdon Wairau Valley Marlborough

Roll 47

Page 13

Occupation Musterer

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75)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Richard Dow

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 41379

Rank Lance-Corpl

Next of Kin Title George Alexander

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address St Lawrence Otane Hawkes Bay

Roll 60

Page 17

Occupation Farmer

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76)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Robert

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 30416

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title James

Next of Kin Surname ROTHERY

Next of Kin Relationship Friend

Next of Kin Address Whangamomona Taranaki

Roll 47

Page 13

Occupation Seaman

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77)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Roland Sinclair

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 32412

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Miss E M

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Sister

Next of Kin Address C/- T Williams Tinwald Canterbury

Roll 45

Page 31

Occupation Teamster

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78)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Stanley

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 29117

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs M

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Cornwall Street Lyttelton

Roll 43

Page 32

Occupation Cabinetmaker

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79)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Stephen Barker

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 32556

Rank Sergeant

Next of Kin Title Mrs K H

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address 14 Clifton Terrace Wellington

Roll 55

Page 31

Occupation Bank Teller

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80)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Sydney John

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 12316

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title G

Next of Kin Surname MADGWICK

Next of Kin Address East Grimstead Sussex

Roll 31

Page 22

Occupation Farm Hand

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81)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Thomas Edward

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 35139

Rank Corporal

Next of Kin Title Mrs H M

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address City Hotel Reefton

Comment Born in Australia

Roll 49

Page 12

Occupation Miner

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82)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Thomas Marshall Byrnes

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 3/1101

Rank Private

Body or Draft NZRB

Unit or Regiment Medical Corps

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address C/- H W Swinburn Hawera

Next of Kin Title Dr T W

Next of Kin Surname SIMONS

Next of Kin Address Patea

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83)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Vivian Herbert

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 26/483

Rank Driver

Next of Kin Title Alfred Herbert

Next of Kin Surname WRIGHT

Next of Kin Relationship Brother-in-law

Next of Kin Address Derby Tasmania

Comment Born in Australia

Roll 23

Page 2

Occupation Bushman

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84)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name Walter Percy

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 23/2117

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs S

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address 76 Cuba Street Palmerston North

Roll 26

Page 30

Occupation Carpenter

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85)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William Albert

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 23282

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Thomas

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Whitchurch Cardiff Wales

Roll 33

Page 36

Occupation Labourer

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86)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William Augustus

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 15110

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs Agnes

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Mackay Street Thames

Roll 34

Page 30

Occupation Timber-worker

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87)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William Barton

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 32112

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs M A

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address 32 Carlton Gore Road Auckland

Roll 45

Page 25

Occupation Farm Hand

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88)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William Ellis

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 24/1865

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs W

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Nedle Street Castle Hill Kaitangata Otago

Roll 15

Page 10

Occupation Railway Porter

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89)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William Henry

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 42441

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs Grace

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Wife

Next of Kin Address Russell Road Remuera Auckland

Roll 60

Page 23

Occupation Carpenter

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90)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William Henry

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 39133

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs Jane

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address 8 Byron Street Sydenham Christchurch

Roll 55

Page 31

Occupation Compositor

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91)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William Henry

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 23/2304

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs J

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Kaiwaka Auckland

Roll 27

Page 4

Occupation Labourer

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92)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William Orwig

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 38249

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs Jane

Next of Kin Surname ROBERTS

Next of Kin Relationship Aunt

Next of Kin Address 2 Marian Terrace Ebenezer Carnarvonshire Wales

Roll 55

Page 34

Occupation Labourer

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93)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William Robert

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 3

Regimental Number 55190

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title Mrs W

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address Northern Wairoa

Roll 69

Page 21

Occupation Bushman

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94)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William Seymour

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 17848

Rank Rifleman

Next of Kin Title H

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Father

Next of Kin Address Karamea via Westport

Roll 41

Page 39

Occupation Labourer

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95)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 2

Regimental Number 13706

Rank Corporal

Next of Kin Title Mrs S I

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Mother

Next of Kin Address 319 The Terrace Wellington

Roll 34

Page 31

Occupation Clerk

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96)Surname WILLIAMS

Given Name William

Category Nominal Roll Vol. 1

Regimental Number 23/323

Rank Rifleman

Body or Draft 1st NZRB

Unit or Regiment A Company

Marital Status S

Last NZ Address 16 Bradford St Parnell

Next of Kin Title Miss Maggie

Next of Kin Surname WILLIAMS

Next of Kin Relationship Sister

Next of Kin Address Post-office Otama Southland

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96 Williams in the Rifle Brigade, only 6 of whom have photos on Cenotaph.

Is it possible to date the photo, even to the year? This would help to remove some of them from the list.

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Now that's what I call dedication, Christine! I'm pretty sure it's not the Gisborne ones, though. That cuts us down to about...77?

Allie

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Now that's what I call dedication, Christine! I'm pretty sure it's not the Gisborne ones, though.

Allie

Thanks, but I can't see my own postings! I thought they would appear on page 2, after the photographs.

Where are they in the list?

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Nos 16, 27 and 57. Not 16 for absolute certain - there's a photo of him on his cenotaph page.

That must have taken you ages! I was vaguely thinking about doing it but, when I realised the sheer numbers, I wimped out. :blush:

Allie

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Jonathon, I have just posted 4 replies to your post on page 2 of this thread, something about "without his lemön squeezer " concerning Williams of the NZ Rifle Brigade.

The 4 posts list all the Williams in the NZRB.

However, I cannot see these posts anywhere.

Alliekiwi has seen them, she replied to them, and they appeared in the New Posts section straight after I sent them. Maybe they will appear!

Christine

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Yikes, that's a bit spooky, Christine! Your posts are numbers 212-216 on this page. I wonder if your computer cache is playing up? Or else you have Peeves the poltergeist haunting your hard drive.

I wonder if there's anything else on the photo that could help narrow possible chaps down a bit.

Allie

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Susan, great work. So we now know Edgar Victor Thompson's age in 1914 (20), and that he had three brothers who could fit the bill: Frank aged 33, Geoffrey aged 24, and Harrold aged 26.

Russ, sorry I haven't come across any with the name Ibbetson.

Christine, Wow! You have been busy! Of those with attatched photographs, only Henry Richard Williams and 2nd Lt. Keith Gaster Williams bear some resemblance, and I think we can drop KGW because of his rank. Percy Lawrence was wounded, but the hospital he was sent to was Brockenhurst in Hampshire. Bright Ernest Williams was wounded by three bullets, but it dosen't say were he was treated. The only photo of BEW I could find is one in his old age (from the Retuned Services Association website), does anyone know if there is a photo of him in uniform?

l to r: B.E. Williams (rsa.org), H.E. Williams (Auckland Museum), the two plates for Williams NZRB.

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Hello all, the dates have been confirmed for the exhibition. It will run from the 1st August to the 1st of September at Sevenoaks library.

I'd like to ask for any help you can give to identify the persons in the following plates. I have grouped them together in the folder Volunteer Aid Detatchments, but is this what they are?

This is a list of the VAD hospitals in and around Sevenoaks, taken from Hazel Basford's website http://www.juroch.demon.co.uk/kentvad

:St. Johns Hall VAD Hospital (Kent/56)

Cornwall Hall VAD Hospital (Kent/76)

Coome Bank (Convalescent)

Suffolk House, 135 High Street (December 1914)

Mission Hall and Chipstead Place, Chipstead (Kent/58)

Here is plate 1020, name of Thompson.

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The word 'Kent' can be made out on the shoulder title of this one, but it dosen't look like the standard VAD titles I've seen in reference books. The red cross shield of the cap badge is repeated in the button design. 1021, name of Wilkins.

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