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Interesting: the chap in the middle photo above (the o.r.) is wearin collar dogs - unusual for a Great War-period man. I assume he's a Lewis Gunner (the L in a wreath)?

Sorry, no.

If it is L in wreath [and I am not so sure] it should be 'Layer', an RA appointment, and therefore worn upper right.

Not a good fit!

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Hi Barke02

Have just read all 6 pages of this post. It is fascinating. Please could you post the 3 names from the Suffolk Regiment and the 3 names of the Army Chaplains as listed in post 44.

Thank you

Jonathan

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I think it might be Somerset. Here is a partially corrected view of the badge.

Michael

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I don't think so - and the cap badge is definitely not.

Brendon.

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Regarding post 79 of KLR men, the Captain would be Maurice Tweedale of the 7th Bn. He was KIA on 16.5.1915 aged 26. The other officer - who ended up a Captain - would be Cyril Edward Balmforth

Lt. (actg. Capt.) C. E. Balmforth, M.C.,

to be actg. Adjt., and to retain the actg.

rank of Capt. wnilst so empld., but with pay

and allces. of a Lt. 9th Nov. 1918.

From LG 3 Jan 1919 - this was cancelled in LG of 14 Feb 1919

Liverpool Regt.—Lt. C. E. Balmforth, M.C.,

to be actg. C'apt. whilst comdg. a Co. 8th

July 1918.

From LG 2 Aug 1918

2nd Lit. Cyril Edmund Balmforth, I/pool

Begt.

For conspicuous gallantry and devotion to

duty. Taking command of his company

during an attack, when his Captain was

wounded, he gained his objective and led

.them with great gallantry and skill. Be

was the only officer leit, and during the

whole operation he displayed remarkable

coolness and determination, and kept his

men cheerful under most trying conditions

by his splendid personal example.

From LG 9 Jan 1918

Private Cyril Edmund Balmforth, from.

The King's (Liverpool Regiment), to be

Second Lieutenant. Dated 7th October,.

1915.

From LG of 5 Oct 1915

Chris

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Here you go Jonathan.

Suffolk Regiment

Lt.Nisbet 1130, 1131, 1407

Ganilia 1407

Royal Army Chaplin Service

White 1206, 1292

Collier 1338

Doug,

going back to posts 34/35 here is the name written on the plate. I think you're spot on this this one, it must indeed be Cecil James Blinkhorne. The VAD connection and marriage at Ightham fit perfectly. Here is the entry from the Ightham marriage register.

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Re. my suggestion in post 119 that the shoulder title in post 65 reads "Somerset".

I don't think so - and the cap badge is definitely not.

Brendon.

I admit you may be right, but I am writing about image 1191 Smith. There isn't a cap badge in the photo!

Michael

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What luck they were shoved up the chimney!

Luckier still, no one lit a fire in all that time!

Crikey, do you know anything more of the story of the owners?

They have left us with a fantastic legacy.

They too deserve praise!

When is the extra large double volume edition going to be published?

Anyone else see a sure fire bookshop seller here?

Kind regards and thank you for bringing your find here.

This place never ceases to amaze me

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Al, re. post 102 Furgeson/Furguson it is definitely written as Furgeson on the plate negative, although of course it would be the photographer writing it down, and thus open to being mis-spelt.

Doris, re. posts 2 and 18 Selford/Telford. Some of the plate negatives had been stored in envelopes made of a paper similar to tracing paper. These had badly deteriorated over the years and by the time the plates were found the paper had become yellow, brittle and stuck to the negative (you can see some around the edges of the photo). I think the name for this one must have been on the envelope, as I can't make out any name now on the plate itself.

Tom, here are The Dorsets,

Dorsetshire Regiment

officer Young 1224

unknown officer 1501

Wiltshire Regiment

2nd.Lt. Newton 1136, 1287

2nd.Lt. Trott 1398, 1400

2nd.Lt. Wing 1221

South Lancashire Regiment

officer Thompson 1117, 1118, 1121

York and Lancaster Regiment

2nd.Lt. Swalley 1468

West Surrey Regiment

Winter 1184, 1185

The Welsh Regiment

L.Cpl. Yeo 1161

Sussex Yeomanry

Wilson 1225

Left: here is 1224 Young of the Dorsets.

Right: Chris, here is 1434 Balmforth.

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Jon

nice to see the face behind the story

Chris

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Jonathan, with the Officer on the left at the bottom of post 134, would it be possible to see a close up of the chinstrap on his cap please?

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For comparison, a photo of Major J A Wollf (1177, 1178) as OC, 7th Lancs Bty, 4th W Lancs Brigade, RFA when the unit went overseas in Sept. 1915. Dick Flory

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"officer Sing 1300, 1301" is probably Captain Lawrence Millington Sing, who in September 1915 was Battery Captain of 7th Lancs Battery, 4th West Lancs Brigade, RFA, the same battery that Major Wolff (1177, 1178) was OC. In fact in the photo I have he is sitting next to Major Wolff. Do you suppose that had their photos taken at the same time? Here is a photo of Captain LM Sing for comparison with you photos 1300 and 1301. Regards, Dick Flory

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2nd Lieut. Wace 1115 is probably Lieut. E. C. Wace, RGA. 2nd Lieut. Warde 1377 is probably either 2nd Lieut B S H Warde, 62 Sg Bty, RGA or Lieut. John Roberts O'Brien Warde, RFA.

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Another RAF one, does this mean the photo can be dated to 1918? ec1042 name is Marsh.

What a marvellous series of photographs!

The man in the above post is wearing the uniform of an RAF Second Lieutenant from April to July 1918. The cap bars on each side of the badge indicate a subaltern (Captains wore two bars). His rank is indicated by the gold eagle on his cuff. Both the cap bars and the eagle were dropped in July, with the eagle replaced by a black braid band.

Gareth

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OK, here is a list of the identified regiments or corps so far. The number is the amount of plates for that regiment/corps, starting with the most.

New Zealand 12th (Nelson) Regiment

unknown New Zealand

If its of any help, the 12th Nelson Rifles formed the 3rd Company of each of the Canterbury Regiments during the war, they simply retained their own cap badges.

Would like to see the unknown NZ out of curioisity.

Regards

Dave

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I admit you may be right, but I am writing about image 1191 Smith. There isn't a cap badge in the photo!

Michael

Michael,

Oooops... My apologies.... it would help if I looked at the right photo!

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Doug,

going back to posts 34/35 here is the name written on the plate. I think you're spot on this this one, it must indeed be Cecil James Blinkhorne. The VAD connection and marriage at Ightham fit perfectly. Here is the entry from the Ightham marriage register.

I agree that it is him - well as much as we can be certain anyway.

Nice to have a bit more detail for him than the run of the mill stuff.

Would be nice if a descendant stumbled across this for positive ID. :)

Doug

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Andy, this is the full list of Australians

Mansfield 1200, 1260

Young 1204

Blinkhorne 1472 (thought to be James Cecil Blinkhorne, thanks Doug)

5th Dragoon Guards

Capt. Webb 1504

Royal Welsh Fusiliers

2nd.Lt Turton 1220

Army Veterinary Corps

Lt. Tutt 1447, 1332, 1333

4th Hussars

2nd.Lt Underwood

(also see 1015-1018 Underwood as an officer cadet)

Cheshire Regiment

officer Martin 1269

King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry

Lt. Thompson 1108

East Lancashire Regiment

officer Bailey 1431

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The Australian in Post #8 is almost certainly 5054 Private Harold Ellis Mansfield, 12th Battalion. He was wounded in 1916 and spent time at Chepstead Kent (wound stripe on sleeve) and attended signal school in Belgium during 1917 (hence the signaller patch on his sleeve). Perhaps this was taken on a susequent return to England and Kent. i.e. after the war.

Cheers,

Tim L.

This might have been missed

Kim

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Hi Barke02

Is there any photo's of men from the "East Kent Reg." "The Buffs".

Looking for a Butler M. A really great collection, thank you for sharing

them with us. Peter

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Royal Navy

Petty Officer? Franklin 1253, 1252, 1251, 1250

Petty Officer? J.H. Franklin 1249, 1248

Petty Officer? West 1240, 1239

Petty Officer? Taylor (copy photo) 1322

Petty Officer? Ward 1380

Watkins, wedding group 1382

Can anyone please identify these naval ranks? Do you think these two Franklins could be brothers?

Left: J.H. Franklin 1249

Right Franklin 1252.

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Opps, thanks for pointing that out Kim.

Australians

Mansfield 1200, 1260 (thought to be Harold Ellis Mansfield 12th Batt AIF, thanks Tim.L)

Blinkhorne 1472 (thought to be Cecil James Blinkhorne 1st MG Batt AIF, thanks Doug)

Young 1204

Peter, for a list of the Buffs see post 47.

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