wainfleet Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 23 years old? He doesn't look a day over 50! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALDAWSON77 Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 I'd like to put this one in the Middlesex Regiment, but would like your opinions. Did many regiments have 10 battalions? 1247 the name is Furgeson. . John, Furgeson or Ferguson? Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 Steve Broomfield is correct 1429/1430 Towlson is indeed Volunteer Training Corps and wearing the red armbad with the letters 'GR' in black and so some wag christened them 'Gorgeous Recks'. The uniform was actually grey/green in colour as instructed by the War Office, who had the monopoly on khaki SD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionboxer Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 This Forum never ceases to amaze me!! What an absolute nugget of a find. How exciting it is to see the faces behind the dusty documentation available. Incidentally the RFC chappie TREZISE came from Brazil according to his MIC. Lionboxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barke02 Posted 13 July , 2008 Author Share Posted 13 July , 2008 Al, I'll have to check tomorrow. As all the names are handwritten they're open to interpretation (as with the Australian Blinkhouse/Blinkhorne in an earlier post) I'll scan just the name and post it for you to have a look. Royal Field Artillery Major Wolff 1289, 1178, 1177 Capt.Thompson 1126, 1110, 1109, 1107 Lt. Underwood 1155, 1156 2nd.Lt. Wace 1151, 1145, 1144, 1115 (photo posted) 2nd Lt. Warde 1377 officer Kodura 1331, 1337 officer Wilson 1216 officer Waller 1409 officer Sing 1300, 1301 officer unknown, copy photo with two horses 1346 Sgt. Tucker 1387 L.Cpl. Maskell 1270, 1415 L.Cpl. Malin 1261, 1262, 1160 Turell (T RFA KENT) 1334 Whitburn (gun, limber and full horse team, poor quality) 1473, 1485 Marsh (family group) 1272 Alec Young 1404, 1480 Whiteside 1068 Fuller 1254 Weaver 1230 Westaway 1227 Sinden 1307, 1308 Slatter 1467 Cooke 1456 Waters 1381 Here is Second Lieutenant Wace 1115. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barke02 Posted 13 July , 2008 Author Share Posted 13 July , 2008 Hi Lionboxer. Here he is 1399 Trezise RFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALDAWSON77 Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 Hi Lionboxer. Here he is 1399 Trezise RFC. That uniform's easy. That's INTERNATIONAL RESCUE! F.A.B. Al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barke02 Posted 13 July , 2008 Author Share Posted 13 July , 2008 The Loyal Regiment (North Lancashire) Capt. Shaw 1506 Capt. Booth 1492 Capt. Bouchuer? 1295 Capt. Kodura 1242 officer Thompson 1102 Lt. Smith 1281, 1282, 1283 Sgt. G. Collier 1339 Markland (group, Sgt. and Cpl.) 1199 Underwood 1158 Taylor 1326 Here is Sgt. G. Collier1339. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 1289.1178.1179 JOHN ALFRED WOLFF MAJOR RFA LT/COL RFA (TF) deceased 23-10-18 widow Barrett House Rossett Nr Wrexham. Ralph. edit, CWGC Romeries Comm Cem Ext possibly one of John Hartleys men Hale Barnes Cheshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barke02 Posted 13 July , 2008 Author Share Posted 13 July , 2008 King's Own Lancaster Regiment Singleton, three officers including Capt. and Lt. 1296 unknown officer (copy photo) 1374 Usher 4th Batt. 1223, 1157 Keen 5th Batt. 1388 Singleton 1302 Smith 1465 Mason 1449 Blades 1439 Here is plate 1465 Smith in full kit, unusual for a studio portrait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barke02 Posted 13 July , 2008 Author Share Posted 13 July , 2008 Great research Ralph. Here he is. Wolff 1177, 1178. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 1155.1156 UNDERWOOD FREDERICK LEWIS medals c/o Cox and Co Bombay or VINCENT JOHN 12 The Crescent -- cannot decipher the remainder poss Rumney ? Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 1223.1157 RICHARD USHER T4/2410 A/COL SGT KIA 8-8-1916 SON OF JOHN and JANE USHER 191 ALBERT STREET MILLOM CUMBERLAND 1/4TH KINGS OWN. Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barke02 Posted 13 July , 2008 Author Share Posted 13 July , 2008 Royal Engineers Lt. Norman 1490, 1491 2nd.Lt. Marwood 1267, 1268, 1422 Cpl Boustead? 1077 Tatlock 1330 Royal Engineers Signal Service Cpl. Taylor 1325 Makin 1306 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pegum Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 Steve Broomfield is correct 1429/1430 Towlson is indeed Volunteer Training Corps and wearing the red armbad with the letters 'GR' in black and so some wag christened them 'Gorgeous Recks'. The uniform was actually grey/green in colour as instructed by the War Office, who had the monopoly on khaki SD. Was the nickname of "Gorgeous (W)recks" (derived from Georgius Rex, King George, for those who have forgotten their O-level Latin) used in England? I have heard of it in Dublin but I thought it was anti-Unionist derision. Did they carry real rifles or imitation/decommissioned ones? Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barke02 Posted 13 July , 2008 Author Share Posted 13 July , 2008 Here he is Ralph. 1223, 1157 Usher. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 1339 COLLIER GILBERT either 240009 Silver War Badge COL SGT, or 87 COLLIER GILBERT Q M SGT discharged. The crown above his sergeants stripes is the clue? which of the above ranks wore this ? I do not know. Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garron Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 Private Smith in Post #110 is armed with an Arisaka type 38, so would be quite early on in the war. Gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pegum Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 I think 1191 Smith is 7th Middlesex. I think it might be Somerset. Here is a partially corrected view of the badge. Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jansanderson Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 1339 COLLIER GILBERT either 240009 Silver War Badge COL SGT, or 87 COLLIER GILBERT Q M SGT discharged. The crown above his sergeants stripes is the clue? which of the above ranks wore this ? I do not know. Ralph. I believe 3 stripes and a crown was Colour Sgt Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jansanderson Posted 13 July , 2008 Share Posted 13 July , 2008 1295 Capt Bouchier - either Charles Fitzhenry Bouchier or George James Bouchier. Both brothers served with LNLR and held rank of Capt, Charles later became Major. Both MICs give a post war addresses though these are different. 1901 census gives them as sons of Henry J and Annie living Stangeways House, Hindley where Henry was a Colliery general manager. Dobs Charles c 1876 and George c 1878. Sorry can't tell you which brother is your Capt Bouchier Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted 14 July , 2008 Share Posted 14 July , 2008 The Australian in Post #8 is almost certainly 5054 Private Harold Ellis Mansfield, 12th Battalion. He was wounded in 1916 and spent time at Chepstead Kent (wound stripe on sleeve) and attended signal school in Belgium during 1917 (hence the signaller patch on his sleeve). Perhaps this was taken on a susequent return to England and Kent. i.e. after the war. Cheers, Tim L. Hi Tim I think you may be right. Pre war Harold Mansfield also saw service in the 14th FCE which also could have led to him being put in signals for his battalion. Cheers Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 14 July , 2008 Share Posted 14 July , 2008 Was the nickname of "Gorgeous (W)recks" (derived from Georgius Rex, King George, for those who have forgotten their O-level Latin) used in England? I have heard of it in Dublin but I thought it was anti-Unionist derision. Did they carry real rifles or imitation/decommissioned ones? Michael The term was used generally throughout the UK to describe members of the VTC, who for the best part were of an age well beyond military service. As for their rifles they were indeed the real thing, but because of supply restrictions they had to use anything they could get their hands on, especially in the ealry days. Regarding the suggestion that the shoulder title could be 'T/7/Somerset', the Somersets didn't have a 7th Territorial Battalion and if they had, as a Light Infantry unit it would have been of a three tier pattern i.e. T7/Bugle/Somerset. I think the suggestion Middlesex is probably correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulianB Posted 14 July , 2008 Share Posted 14 July , 2008 Regarding post 79 of KLR men, the Captain would be Maurice Tweedale of the 7th Bn. He was KIA on 16.5.1915 aged 26. The other officer - who ended up a Captain - would be Cyril Edward Balmforth but I'm not sure of his battalion yet. I haven't got v far with the others I'm afraid. Apropos rjaydee's post (no 95) the men of the 5th Bn (as shown in your photographs) wore a blackened badge but the 7th Bn wore regular badges for the duration of the war. By the way, do you have any idea of the date range of these photographs ? (they obviously start before May 1915) Julian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 14 July , 2008 Share Posted 14 July , 2008 I believe 3 stripes and a crown was Colour Sgt Jan Whoops! Both! Company QMS was an appointment for a Colour Sergeant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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