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Medals returned 1743 KR


clive_hughes

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Hi,

just found a Medal Card in which the recipient Pte Victor S. De Lan of the King's Liverpools had his BWM/Victory pair noted with the remark "Returned (1743 KR) 8149 / Adt."

The last bit may be some cryptic file note, but what was the relevant King's Regulation quoted, please?

He was also issued a SWBadge.

LST_164

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Hi LST,

King's Regulations 1912 with amendments to 1st August 1914, Para 1743 (as a result of Army Order 409, 1913), has this to say about unclaimed medals:

'Medals which, at the end of 10 years, still remain unclaimed, will be sent to the India Office (if granted for India service), or the deputy director of ordnance stores, Royal Dockyard (Medal Branch), Woolwich (if granted for other service) to be broken up'

I believe that the crytic note '8149 / Adt' would suggest that they had been returned for adjustment, so an error in the enraving as opposed to the recipient having moved from the given address. Hope this helps,

cheers, Jon

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Ah!

Thank you very much for that observation, Jon. One lives and learns...

LST_164

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  • 9 months later...

I have found a similar entry on a Victory amd British Medal medal roll:

Ret'd 1743 KR CRV 375/Bd/30823 8163 Adt

On the medal card there are three lines of notes:

BM & VM Retd (1743 K.R. 1912) 8163/Adt

(then in a different hand)

1712B/A.9.10

(then in a different hand)

W.S\2\4121 (then in the same writing as the first line) 8163/Adt

Can you or anyone explain these additional notes??

Also, the man in question was Discharged "Free" for the purpose of joining the Union of South Africa Forces. What does the "free" bit mean and what does the reference CR/40414/A (or 1A) after this note mean??

Many thanks in advance

Hi LST,

King's Regulations 1912 with amendments to 1st August 1914, Para 1743 (as a result of Army Order 409, 1913), has this to say about unclaimed medals:

'Medals which, at the end of 10 years, still remain unclaimed, will be sent to the India Office (if granted for India service), or the deputy director of ordnance stores, Royal Dockyard (Medal Branch), Woolwich (if granted for other service) to be broken up'

I believe that the crytic note '8149 / Adt' would suggest that they had been returned for adjustment, so an error in the enraving as opposed to the recipient having moved from the given address. Hope this helps,

cheers, Jon

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