edstanton Posted 15 July , 2007 Share Posted 15 July , 2007 Grandfather on the Western Front in 1917 is recorded as being hospitalised for 17 days due to "I.C.T. L. knee". This I understand was abbreviation for "inflammation connecting tissue left knee". What sort of conditions did that abbreviation cover? It sounds like a fairly minor illness - but he was a fair time in hospital and he wrote home at the time about a "leg wound" suggesting something more serious like a flesh wound. The War Diary for his Pioneer Regiment does list one casualty the day he went to hospital. If it was illness due to the hard work that caused hospitalisation, would that still have been reported as a casualty? Grateful any enlightenment. Ed Stanton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 15 July , 2007 Share Posted 15 July , 2007 Separating the bones of the knee are pads of connective tissue called menisci. The menisci are two crescent-shaped discs (each called a meniscus) positioned between the tibia and femur on the outer and inner sides of each knee. The two menisci in each knee act as shock absorbers, cushioning the lower part of the leg from the weight of the rest of the body as well as enhancing stability. A common site of injury for athletes and soldiers. Especially wearing hard soled boots, carrying heavy loads over uneven ground. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 15 July , 2007 Share Posted 15 July , 2007 Ed, The medical history of the great war explains that I.C.T. was a general term for suppurating skin diseases (Pyodermia), caused mainly due to parasitic disease, but did not include scabies. This was extremely common among soldiers in the Great War due to the dirty conditions they had to live in. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 16 July , 2007 Share Posted 16 July , 2007 Thats interesting, Ive never seen that abbreviation before, the only other one near to it I thought about was Impetigo Contagiosa. What does the full abbreviation stand for? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Dunlop Posted 16 July , 2007 Share Posted 16 July , 2007 Ed, could you recheck the original record please? Is the word 'connecting' or is it 'connective', which is what I would expect. Thanks Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 17 July , 2007 Share Posted 17 July , 2007 ICT = Inflammation of the Connective Tissue. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 17 July , 2007 Share Posted 17 July , 2007 Sorry I'm still a bit confused about this. Thats the explanation of the abbreviation Ed put forward. I wonder how suppurating comes into it. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebriggs Posted 17 July , 2007 Share Posted 17 July , 2007 ICT = Inflammation of the Connective Tissue. Charlie In the context of the left knee, connective tissue could mean tendon, ligament, cartilage and muscle. Inflammation could therefore cover tendonitis, rheumatism or anything to do with a general knee injury; might even just be fluid on the knee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 17 July , 2007 Share Posted 17 July , 2007 As I understand it, the connective tissue in this context is the dermis. This would tie in with supperating. Try this link http://www.patient.co.uk/leaflets/pyodermia.htm Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auchonvillerssomme Posted 17 July , 2007 Share Posted 17 July , 2007 In that case I wonder what heading the problems I noted above and mikebriggs mentioned come into, they involve connective tissue but probably aren't suppurating. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstanton Posted 20 July , 2007 Author Share Posted 20 July , 2007 Thanks for input on this. The term "inflammation" seems to point towards the meniscus explanation proposed. However I've rechecked grandfathers letters and he refers not only to a "leg wound" but also to "its not quite healed up yet , but nearly" which fits more with a suppurating wound. Only puzzle I'm left with is whether he would officially be recorded as a casualty if the wound was caused not by enemy action but by the work he was doing. What conditions had to be fulfilled to be listed in a War Diary as a casualty? Tks Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 20 July , 2007 Share Posted 20 July , 2007 On the army form B 104-82B sent to my great grandmother informing her of her husband's death in Hospital in July 1919 (from wound recieved 1918) the cause of death is given as: "Inflamation of the Connective Tissue, Buttock" My assumption had always been that this would be some sort of gangrene / septicemia - certainly as it is given as a cause of death I would assume it covers more than scabies, or water on the knee. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie2 Posted 21 July , 2007 Share Posted 21 July , 2007 Chris, If you follow the link in my earlier post and click on Ecthyma and look at the complications that are listed, gangrene is indeed a possibility. Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thGordons Posted 21 July , 2007 Share Posted 21 July , 2007 Chris, If you follow the link in my earlier post and click on Ecthyma and look at the complications that are listed, gangrene is indeed a possibility. Charlie Thanks Charlie, I am not sure I understood all of it but I'm glad I had my lunch before I read it! Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc2 Posted 22 July , 2007 Share Posted 22 July , 2007 I've also seen this abbreviation as meaning "Injury to Connective Tissue", which could include such things as knee cartilege injuries, torn ligaments, etc.-- basically "bunged up knee" in this case. Doc2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Canadian Posted 23 March , 2011 Share Posted 23 March , 2011 Hello There I received the archived material of a relative who served in the CEF. The transcripts from Ottawa include information on his medical reports. I am having touble decipering the language. Could someone help? He injured his arm in Vimy Ridge I think. He was admitted to the 6th CAIO(?) depot then to the 7 Can, Gen. at Etaples then to 6th Conone(?) Depot in Etaples then to the Can. Spec. Whitley ( is this a specialty hospital?) Some casualties were coded are the casualty codes available somewhere? he was classifed a "B2" ( I.C.T.arm) Thanks for your help Jane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry_Reeves Posted 23 March , 2011 Share Posted 23 March , 2011 Jane 7th Canadian General Hospital and 6th Convalescent Depot. You can see the site of the latter using google maps. Go to Etaples and find Avenue du Blanc Pavé where it joins Avenue Francois Mitterand. Across the other side of the road stood the convalescent depot, roughly from Alle de l'Eolienne. towards Rue Marcel Rosey. To find 7th Canadian General, go to the opposite end of Avenue du Blanc Pavé where it joins the traffic island at the D940. The hospital occupied the corner plot spreading northwards. TR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaJane Posted 23 March , 2011 Share Posted 23 March , 2011 I C T defined here http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=78766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Canadian Posted 27 March , 2011 Share Posted 27 March , 2011 Thanks for your help. Jane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimosamiminski Posted 14 November , 2016 Share Posted 14 November , 2016 I am trying to read an abbreviation to a wound on my relatives record. The abbreviation is hard to read. It could be Adn wd slight, Adm? Gdm? Idw? The d seems clear, and an n or w or m to end. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Riley Posted 14 November , 2016 Share Posted 14 November , 2016 Abdominal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimosamiminski Posted 14 November , 2016 Share Posted 14 November , 2016 Thanks, I think you are right - good thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul@paulmanning.net Posted 29 December , 2016 Share Posted 29 December , 2016 For your interest, I have attached my Great-uncle's pension assessment WW1 which includes ICT injuries to his knees and also mentions scars from ICT, contracted whilst a POW in 1918, He was assessed as 20% disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Riley Posted 29 December , 2016 Share Posted 29 December , 2016 (edited) Inflammation of connective tissue? Edit: Ooops - misread - thought this was a new query. Edited 29 December , 2016 by Ian Riley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SteveChase Posted 10 March , 2017 Share Posted 10 March , 2017 My Grandfather was a Doctor in WW1 France and his letters contain: "still dealing with large numbers of boils & I.C.T.'s etc." "we are getting minor cases just now _ I.C.T., hernias etc but it keeps us occupied." So I would opine that they were common and rarely fatal. Ed Stanton: In hospital summary reports, they made no distinction as to combat vs. other kinds of injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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