RedCoat Posted 15 June , 2007 Share Posted 15 June , 2007 Hi all, I am having trouble finding few bits on the Archive. William Creed KIA Wilts. How do you actually search archive site effectively. Any tips would be most welcome. Thanks, Donnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 15 June , 2007 Share Posted 15 June , 2007 The search engine is compromised by the exceptional small type on the casualty lists. With a date of death, it's not too bad. Ok, it's not very good at all.... I searched for his number 11179 . He is in the Killed list dated 24-8-1915 with 3 other 5th Wilts men. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PJKidd Posted 15 June , 2007 Share Posted 15 June , 2007 Hi all, I am having trouble finding few bits on the Archive. William Creed KIA Wilts. How do you actually search archive site effectively. Any tips would be most welcome. Thanks, Donnie What have you tried? If you've just tried "William Creed", try W. [initials] Creed Wm. Creed Creed, [regiment] etc. and you can narrow the search dates to 1914-1918 (or just to 1917, or whatever) The OCR is not entirely accurate, so you might also try William *G*reed, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCoat Posted 15 June , 2007 Author Share Posted 15 June , 2007 Thanks Guys. Now i have a bit more of a clue i will resume my searches. Thanks, Donnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCoat Posted 15 June , 2007 Author Share Posted 15 June , 2007 I am still having touble finding any reference to my GreatGrandad Peter Daniel Desbrow MC, he was RGA. He wounded late 1915 and he won the MC so shouldnt he appear somewhere? I have tried every combination possible. Donnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 15 June , 2007 Share Posted 15 June , 2007 It's a frustrating search engine to say the least! I assume you have found his MC mention. http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/archiveVi...;selHonourType= Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCoat Posted 15 June , 2007 Author Share Posted 15 June , 2007 Yeh, Hi mate. i did find all that relates to his service from the London Gazette, But its the wounded and anything really from the "The Times" archive that i need. Can't seem to find anything. The Times archive is worse than the damn LG Thanks, Donnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 15 June , 2007 Share Posted 15 June , 2007 Yep! It's really the small type that does it... All I can suggest is that you go through day by day and tick "people" and look through all the "deaths" type articles. After a while you get an eye for telling which are miltary ones and which are the civilian ones. A delay of about 7 days was standard for the reporting of officer woundings. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hambo Posted 15 June , 2007 Share Posted 15 June , 2007 Steve Do you mind if I butt in and ask how I can get access to the Times archives Thanks Hambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCoat Posted 15 June , 2007 Author Share Posted 15 June , 2007 Yep! It's really the small type that does it... All I can suggest is that you go through day by day and tick "people" and look through all the "deaths" type articles. After a while you get an eye for telling which are miltary ones and which are the civilian ones. A delay of about 7 days was standard for the reporting of officer woundings. Steve. When i type in "desbrow" there are no articles to look through. Donnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 15 June , 2007 Share Posted 15 June , 2007 Donnie, I mean enter nothing in the search box and trawl. And trawl. And trawl.... Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedCoat Posted 15 June , 2007 Author Share Posted 15 June , 2007 Donnie, I mean enter nothing in the search box and trawl. And trawl. And trawl.... Steve. Donnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 16 June , 2007 Share Posted 16 June , 2007 Steve Do you mind if I butt in and ask how I can get access to the Times archives Thanks Hambo I'm not Steve, but many of us access the archive by our local library membership; log on to the library website, enter our library number and bring it up. I've just glanced at the Surrey libraries website, but could see no reference to it being available in your neck of the woods. Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 16 June , 2007 Share Posted 16 June , 2007 I'm not Steve, but many of us access the archive by our local library membership; log on to the library website, enter our library number and bring it up. I've just glanced at the Surrey libraries website, but could see no reference to it being available in your neck of the woods. Moonraker Moonraker, Do you mind if I ask the same question as Hambo, is it available in my neck of the woods? Rochdale/Milnrow area. Sorry to appear a bit dim, but didnt realise Times was in archive. Regards Ralph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 16 June , 2007 Share Posted 16 June , 2007 Moonraker, Do you mind if I ask the same question as Hambo, is it available in my neck of the woods? Rochdale/Milnrow area. Sorry to appear a bit dim, but didnt realise Times was in archive. Regards Ralph. Ralph: I don't know how your local authority libraries are organised, ie whether Rochdale has its own library service or is part of the Lancashire one. But a Google leads to an enigmatic reference that in Lancashire it's only available by subscription: webpage Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 16 June , 2007 Share Posted 16 June , 2007 A work in progress list of online access points: Bedfordshire http://www.galaxy.bedfordshire.gov.uk/webi..._newspapers.htm Berkshire Availiable through Reading libraries: http://www.readinglibraries.org.uk/services/newspapers.htm Buckinghamshire http://www.buckscc.gov.uk/bcc/content/inde...ntid=1270056146 Cambridgeshire http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/leisure/libraries/online/ Cheshire http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Library/reflib.htm Cornwall http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/homepage/leisur...lllibraries.htm Cumbria Apparently not available: http://www.cumbria.gov.uk/libraries/Catalo...y_of_access.asp Derbyshire See under Infotrac newspapers: http://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/leisure/libra...ion/default.asp Devon http://www.devon.gov.uk/onlinereference Dorset Apparently not available: http://www.dorsetforyou.com/index.jsp?articleid=365002 EDIT: Available through the Poole Libray service: http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/po_earl http://www.boroughofpoole.com/go.php?struc...=S464ADAF084823 County Durham Possible access: http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/usp.nsf/...ibraries+Online Essex http://www.essexcc.gov.uk/vip8/ecc/ECCWebs...ontentOid=15556 Gloucestershire http://www.libraries.gloucestershire.gov.u...articleid=10789 Hampshire http://www3.hants.gov.uk/library/reference-online.htm http://www3.hants.gov.uk/library/reference...-newspapers.htm Herefordshire http://www.libraries.herefordshire.gov.uk/libresources.htm Hertfordshire Possibly available (may only be modern newspapers): http://www.hertsdirect.org/libsleisure/lib...e/onlinereflib/ http://www.hertsdirect.org/libsleisure/lib...lib/newsandmag/ Huntingdonshire Not available. Kent http://www.kent.gov.uk/leisure-and-culture...e-resources.htm http://www.kent.gov.uk/leisure-and-culture...periodicals.htm Lancashire Apparently not available: http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/libraries/onl...rence/index.asp Leicestershire Probably not available: http://www.leics.gov.uk/internet_subscription_services.htm Lincolnshire http://www.lincolnshire.gov.uk/libraries/s....asp?catId=3556 Middlesex/London Harrow: http://www.harrow.gov.uk/ccm/content/leisu...id=abCH9jj19f8e Norfolk http://www.norfolk.gov.uk/consumption/idcp...argetNodeId=263 Northamptonshire http://www.northamptonshire.gov.uk/Leisure...tion/inform.htm Nottinghamshire Probably not available: http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/home/lei...linc.htm#remote Oxfordshire http://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/wps/portal/p...eference+online Rutland Not availaible: http://www.rutnet.co.uk/pp/gold/viewGold.a...ge&ID=12524 Shropshire Probably not available: http://www.shropshire.gov.uk/library.nsf/o...0256FB9004EBAE7 Somerset http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/homepage/leisur...rthsomerset.htm Staffordshire Probably not available: http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/leisure/li...neResources.htm Suffolk http://www.suffolk.gov.uk/LeisureAndCultur...ferenceLibrary/ http://www.suffolk.gov.uk/LeisureAndCultur...nceServices.htm Surrey Not yet found East Sussex http://e-library.eastsussexcc.gov.uk/cgi-b...nqtype=BORROWER West Sussex Probably not available: http://www.westsussex.gov.uk/ccm/navigatio...tronic-library/ Warwickshire May be available in Infotrac: http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/Web/corpora...0256FBA005151AA Wiltshire http://www.plymouth.gov.uk/homepage/leisur...relibraries.htm Worcestershire http://worcestershire.whub.org.uk/home/wcc...ine%20reference Yorkshire North: Apparently not available: http://www.northyorks.gov.uk/public/site/N...000420f1cacRCRD Other Manchester: http://www.manchester.gov.uk/Libraries/24h...brary/index.htm Leeds: Only available in Libraries. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonraker Posted 16 June , 2007 Share Posted 16 June , 2007 Steve That's useful - and saves me fielding more individual requests! I suspect that, as with Reading, one has to enrol with the library and prove local residency to obtain log-in details to the archive. To Pals in general: if your library hasn't got the archive, ask them why not. It really is an invaluable research tool up to 1985. Had it been available in my library nine years ago I would have saved a lot of time spent wading through quarterly printed indices for likely articles, putting the microfilm in the reader (only to find it had been rewound incorrectly and was upside down or back to front, or both), manually winding for a likely article (that more often than not was right at the end of the month - and the reel), and taking notes on one's knees (if the neighbouring desk was being used). Moonraker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphjd Posted 16 June , 2007 Share Posted 16 June , 2007 Steve That's useful - and saves me fielding more individual requests! I suspect that, as with Reading, one has to enrol with the library and prove local residency to obtain log-in details to the archive. To Pals in general: if your library hasn't got the archive, ask them why not. It really is an invaluable research tool up to 1985. Had it been available in my library nine years ago I would have saved a lot of time spent wading through quarterly printed indices for likely articles, putting the microfilm in the reader (only to find it had been rewound incorrectly and was upside down or back to front, or both), manually winding for a likely article (that more often than not was right at the end of the month - and the reel), and taking notes on one's knees (if the neighbouring desk was being used). Moonraker Thanks to Steve and your good self Moonraker for the info Glad I am not the only one ever to balance a pad or find a reel **** supards.Ralph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kath Posted 17 June , 2007 Share Posted 17 June , 2007 Steve! you deserve a medal! Kath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahaniuk Posted 18 June , 2007 Share Posted 18 June , 2007 Bedfordshire http://www.galaxy.bedfordshire.gov.uk/webi..._newspapers.htm You can apply for an online Library Account with Bedfordshire Library giving you access to Times Online When you fill in the form tick the box for Online Membership and not Full see link below http://www.galaxy.bedfordshire.gov.uk/cgi-...nqtype=REGISTER Regards Jill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Seymour Posted 10 October , 2007 Share Posted 10 October , 2007 Steve, You can add Poole Libraries to your list. For some in Dorset this may be a useful way in to the Times Archive. However, I have had no luck looking for 2nd Lt. E E Thompson, RGA, died 16/10/18 - apart from finding him in a list of officers died. I was hoping for an article. As for 2nd Lt Cecil Clarke Cole, RGA died 13/1017 - nothing! Best wishes, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootrock Posted 10 October , 2007 Share Posted 10 October , 2007 Times On-line Archive is available if you join East Sussex County Library. It covers 1785 - 1985. Regards, Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebie9173 Posted 10 October , 2007 Share Posted 10 October , 2007 Thanks David and Martin. List now updated. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith@colourplus Posted 11 January , 2008 Share Posted 11 January , 2008 thanks to stebie 9172 I've just joined oxfordshire online - quick and simple - I look forward to some reading thank you for the listing Happy Llandodlad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rflory Posted 11 January , 2008 Share Posted 11 January , 2008 Donnie wrote: I am still having touble finding any reference to my GreatGrandad Peter Daniel Desbrow MC, he was RGA Section X (Portsmouth) of the National Roll of the Great War has the following: "DESBROW, P. D., Captain, R.G.A. He joined the army in 1896 but when war broke out in August 1914, served for a time at home, and in 1915 was drafted to France. After a month overseas he was sent home for special work until 1918, when he returned to France, and played a distinguished part in the Retreat and Advance. In 1920 he was still in the Army and holds the 1914-15 Star, and the General Service, Victory, and Long Service and Good Conduct Medals. 130, Newcomen Road, Stamshaw, Portsmouth." Regards. Dick Flory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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