roel22 Posted 28 April , 2006 Share Posted 28 April , 2006 Can anybody tell me what the Belgian war graves commission is called - and where I can reach them? Thanks in advance Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 28 April , 2006 Share Posted 28 April , 2006 There isn't one! Either the military or the local commune maintain the cemeteries. For information, you could contact Ministrie van Binnenlandse Zaken Dienst Militaire kerkhoven, konigsstraat 66, B-1000 Brussels Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 28 April , 2006 Share Posted 28 April , 2006 ...or if it's specifics about a particular casualty that you require, I've got a listing of nearly all of the Belgian dead who are under a "wargrave" headstone in France, Belgium and the UK if I can help at all? Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Phillips Posted 28 April , 2006 Share Posted 28 April , 2006 Roel I have found this website very useful http://www.inflandersfields.be/default2.htm Search under 'Main Menu' and then 'Casualty Database'. All the best Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 28 April , 2006 Author Share Posted 28 April , 2006 Thank you for your replies. What I'm looking for has nothing to do with Belgian casualties. After the armistice the Belgian war graves service cleared some battlefields and re-interred the bodies in concentration-cemeteries. I'd like to know if there's specific information about German soldiers reburied at Kemmel no. 1 French cemetery. They were reburied by Belgians. The CWGC doensn't have any info, so the Belgians are more or less my last lead. regards Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 29 April , 2006 Share Posted 29 April , 2006 Thank you for your replies. What I'm looking for has nothing to do with Belgian casualties. After the armistice the Belgian war garves service cleared some battlefields and re-interred the bodies in concentration-cemeteries. I'd like to know if there's specific information about German soldiers reburied at Kemmel no. 1 French cemetery. They were reburied by Belgians. The CWGC doensn't have any info, so the Belgians are more or less my last lead. regards Roel Ahhh! I see! (I never did get back to you about this did I? - found nothing on the German maps and my money still rests on French no.1 being the place). What you call the Belgian War Graves Service was actually the Graves Registration Units of the Belgian Army, not a seperate organisation as was the case for the UK (and Germany after 1919!). Belgian military records might hold some info, but I'm not certain. Dave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 2 May , 2006 Author Share Posted 2 May , 2006 Ahhh! I see! (I never did get back to you about this did I? - found nothing on the German maps and my money still rests on French no.1 being the place). French no. 1 is the no. 1 for me as well: the Volksbund has recently confirmed that two identified burials are of men from the 7.kompanie RIR 238, KIA 14-5-1918. My great-grandfather was from the 5. kompanie and fell the same day. So very likely he was buried there as well as an unknown, during or shortly after the war. regards Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJacobs Posted 20 February , 2007 Share Posted 20 February , 2007 Roel I have found this website very useful http://www.inflandersfields.be/default2.htm Search under 'Main Menu' and then 'Casualty Database'. All the best Dave ==== When I try this web site, there seems to be no way of getting off the first page! No doubt I'm doing something wrong though. My interest is because I am researching the history of the Belgian War Memorial in Southampton Old Cemetery, and there are some discrepancies between names recorded in the burial register, those recorded on the panel on the memorial and those on individual headstones. It seems the graves originally had crosses, but some time after the War (WW1) they were replaced with official standard Belgian headstones. I'd like to know exactly when this was done, at whose instigation, and how the names on them were arrived at. Cheers, DaveJacobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montbrehain Posted 20 February , 2007 Share Posted 20 February , 2007 Heres some (not very good) photos of the Belgian graves in Southampton old cemetery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bert Heyvaert Posted 21 February , 2007 Share Posted 21 February , 2007 Roel, The Belgian War Graves Commission is the 'dienst oorlogsgraven' of the NIOOO (Nationaal Instituut voor oorlogsinvaliden, oud-strijders en oorlogsslactoffers). Director is Colonel Rob Troubleyn. I would suggest you try googling these, and if that doesn't come up with something, go unto www.forumeerstewereldoorlog.nl, where Rob is a user under the name 'oorlogsgraven'. He is a very dedicated man, and there is a notable positive change since he took over the service. regards, Bert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healdav Posted 21 February , 2007 Share Posted 21 February , 2007 The person you want is Patrick de Wolf. His mail is ABL1914@pandora.be He has a CD-ROM of all Belgian war graves (WW1). For some years now he has been doing an inventory of all the wa graves on bhalf, I understand, of the Belgian army and would be interested to have details of the condition of any graves anyone may know of (the Southampton graves above, for example). He can take some time to answer mails, but he is the guru sans pareil on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 21 February , 2007 Share Posted 21 February , 2007 The person you want is Patrick de Wolf. His mail is ABL1914@pandora.be He has a CD-ROM of all Belgian war graves (WW1). . If you want anything looking up from this CD-ROM and can't get hold of him, drop me a line as Patrick gave me a copy of this CD a while back (apparently, according to him, I was (at the time) the only person in the UK to posess this CD! ) Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 21 February , 2007 Author Share Posted 21 February , 2007 The Belgian War Graves Commission is the 'dienst oorlogsgraven' of the NIOOO (Nationaal Instituut voor oorlogsinvaliden, oud-strijders en oorlogsslactoffers). Director is Colonel Rob Troubleyn. I would suggest you try googling these, and if that doesn't come up with something, go unto www.forumeerstewereldoorlog.nl, where Rob is a user under the name 'oorlogsgraven'. He is a very dedicated man, and there is a notable positive change since he took over the service. I'll contact him. Thanks for the tip, Bert! Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
healdav Posted 22 February , 2007 Share Posted 22 February , 2007 If you want anything looking up from this CD-ROM and can't get hold of him, drop me a line as Patrick gave me a copy of this CD a while back (apparently, according to him, I was (at the time) the only person in the UK to posess this CD! ) Dave I also have the CD-ROm, but then I'm not in the UK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 24 February , 2007 Share Posted 24 February , 2007 Can anyone tell me if there are any WW1 Belgian female grave locations on this CD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 24 February , 2007 Share Posted 24 February , 2007 Can anyone tell me if there are any WW1 Belgian female grave locations on this CD? Haven't looked to be honest, but if they are under a Belgian military headstone then, yes, i'd assume they are. Supply me with a name and I'll take a look. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 Haven't looked to be honest, but if they are under a Belgian military headstone then, yes, i'd assume they are. Supply me with a name and I'll take a look. Dave Thanks, Dave. All but one of these is classed as military nurses. I have omitted spies and couriers. Clementine COECKELBERGS Rosalie CORTVIENDT Julia DE PAUW Jeanne DUPOIS Henriette DUSTIN Leonie LEDUN Antoinette LIEVIN-DEMAESENEER Madeleine MOLENBRINCK Georgine PAUWELS Alice ROMDENNE Amelie SERNEELS Armandine SIMON-DEBAUCHE Emma VANNESTE Euphrasie VANNESTE Elise VERJANS Marguerite VERWILGHEM Madeleine WAUTERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 25 February , 2007 Share Posted 25 February , 2007 jim. Unfortunately, I drew a blank with all of them! However, I did stumble on another not on your list (but with a matching surname as one one of yours)... Name: DUSTIN, Carolina Unit: Mil.Hosp.Hoogstade Rank: Nurse Number: 610 Born: Brussels, 2/8/1862 Died: Dinard (Hosp.), 10.9.1918 Cause: Sickness Burial place 1418: Dinard, grave 150 Burial date: 12.9.1918 Burial place today: Dinard Communal Cemetery, grave number 32 Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Strawbridge Posted 27 February , 2007 Share Posted 27 February , 2007 Hello Dave, I am most grateful for this information. It helps give some completeness to my records. Out of interest is it a searchable cd that you have? If so, can you run a search under nurse and sister and see what comes out? Thanks, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRDjar Posted 18 March , 2007 Share Posted 18 March , 2007 Can anybody tell me what the Belgian war graves commission is called - and where I can reach them? Thanks in advance Roel Hi Roel There is no Belgian War Graves Commission as such, and the cemeteries here are maintained either by the military or by the local gemeente - a far cry from the CWGC's magnificent example, innit ? You might try this: Kabinet van de Chef van Defensie Kwartier Koningin Elisabeth Blok 1 Everestraat 1 1140 Brussel Phone (02) 701 61 05 Fax (02) 702 66 25 Hope to have been of some help SRD jar (Brussels) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roel22 Posted 18 March , 2007 Author Share Posted 18 March , 2007 You have been very helpful! regards Roel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bennett Posted 21 May , 2012 Share Posted 21 May , 2012 ...or if it's specifics about a particular casualty that you require, I've got a listing of nearly all of the Belgian dead who are under a "wargrave" headstone in France, Belgium and the UK if I can help at all? Dave. Dave Do you still have the list of casualty locations, if so may I please PM you Thank you Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChasingWarMemorials Posted 5 August , 2013 Share Posted 5 August , 2013 QUOTE (Dave Phillips @ Apr 28 2006, 04:08 PM) Roel I have found this website very useful http://www.inflander...be/default2.htm Search under 'Main Menu' and then 'Casualty Database'. All the best Dave ==== When I try this web site, there seems to be no way of getting off the first page! No doubt I'm doing something wrong though. My interest is because I am researching the history of the Belgian War Memorial in Southampton Old Cemetery, and there are some discrepancies between names recorded in the burial register, those recorded on the panel on the memorial and those on individual headstones. It seems the graves originally had crosses, but some time after the War (WW1) they were replaced with official standard Belgian headstones. I'd like to know exactly when this was done, at whose instigation, and how the names on them were arrived at. Cheers, DaveJacobs Dear DaveJacobs, How did the research turn out on the Belgian memorial in Southampton Old Cemetery? Have you publsihed it anywhere? I came across it the memorial a week ago, and it looks as if the marble plaques on the main cross have been cleaned. I would apprecaite any information. Cheers Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveJacobs Posted 17 August , 2013 Share Posted 17 August , 2013 Dear Tom, I didn't get around to publishing any findings, but you may be interested to know that a group of Southampton University students have recently been doing the Belgian graves as a project, guided by Geoff Watts of FoSOC (Friends of Southampton Old Cemetery. I am told that their findings will eventually get published, but I don't know the details. If you could contact me directly by email (dave@jacobs.net) I can put you in contact with Geoff. Cheers DaveJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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