Muerrisch Posted 30 September , 2005 Share Posted 30 September , 2005 Having, from time to time, seen excellent offerings of scans of the various Army Forms ..... attestation, extension of service, demob/ disembodiment etc [many by such stalwarts as Tom Morgan and Graham Stewart]: I am now suggesting that, instead of these gems being scattered all over the site, they might with advantage all be posted on to one thread. I have Soldiers' Small Book and lots of scans of Officers' Army Forms to contribute. This idea, if followed up, would save that dreadful 'I know I've seen it, but where?' moment, when one regrets not printing off a copy. I am sure that Pals have a good cross-section of the plethora of forms. If pressed, I could help by starting a list, using manuals and instructions that say which forms should be carted around by units. [and yes, we all know the Form number for a toilet roll ......] How about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 30 September , 2005 Share Posted 30 September , 2005 Langley, Can't see any problem myself, as all of mine are scanned. Don't know about other Forum members though. My own collection covers all of the changes in the Forms and variations 1880's - 1930's. My latest one is to a lad whose been called up to 48th Recruiting Area only to be Discharged instantly as "permanently disabled" in 1917. Oh! before I forget Langley have you got copies of the Navy & Army Illustrated?? Considering your latest uniform project there's some superb photographs in them that may be of assistance to you. Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 30 September , 2005 Share Posted 30 September , 2005 Excellent idea. I only have a very small number of such forms but would be happy to contribute scans of what I have. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 30 September , 2005 Share Posted 30 September , 2005 Langley, Perhaps if we all list what we have then it would save on duplication and then you can ask the relevant member to supply the necessary form. The only other thing is would you require the forms we have reducing in size or are you happy to take them as they are? The reason I ask is because larger documents may be too big for posts, but shrinking them may effect the ability to read them properly. Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Baker Posted 1 October , 2005 Share Posted 1 October , 2005 It's a great idea. It would probably be good to start by posting images here, but if the "collection" grows I'd be happy to convert them to web pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 1 October , 2005 Share Posted 1 October , 2005 Langley Do you want a trawl through for form numbers & titles? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 1 October , 2005 Share Posted 1 October , 2005 Sorry missed part of the message out Do you want a trawl through E Bay for form numbers & titles All The Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 2 October , 2005 Share Posted 2 October , 2005 No probs Langley give me a shout when you are ready All The Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 6 October , 2005 Share Posted 6 October , 2005 AF B51 HEALTH MEMORANDA FOR SOLDIERS - 20 page soft back booklet dated 1912 Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 6 October , 2005 Share Posted 6 October , 2005 AF W3455 TRANSFER TO CLASS W (T) TF RESERVE AF B2067A ORANGE FOLDER PROBABLY FOR B2067 chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 6 October , 2005 Share Posted 6 October , 2005 Langley, Slight hitch here lads, tried to do the download and if you haven't got Office 2003 it won't even let you in. I've only got Office 2000 Professional and most of our other members could be in the same boat. Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon Bull Posted 6 October , 2005 Share Posted 6 October , 2005 Langley, Slight hitch here lads, tried to do the download and if you haven't got Office 2003 it won't even let you in. I've only got Office 2000 Professional and most of our other members could be in the same boat. Graham. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Graham, though I ought to let you know that I have Office 2000 and downloaded the documents without any problem at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 6 October , 2005 Share Posted 6 October , 2005 Lads, Sorry, my fault it seems I've inadvertently downloaded some Office 2003 updates instead of Office 2000 which changed the settings of my computer and I didn't realise until I started on that particular post. For the last couple of hours I've been trying and hopefully sorted the problem out as it played havoc with my ability to e.mail as well. Graham. Langley, add these to the list;- A.F. B.271A - Regular Army (All Arms) Attestation Form 1931. A.F. B.2079 - Discharge Cert print date 8/15. A.F. B.2067 - Character Cert print date 1/15. These latter two you will have already noted, but there seems to be slight variations and going off the time the recipient is discharged and what is printed on them I take it that these particular markings mentioned above are actual dates they were printed. Can anyone verify this? Graham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Morgan Posted 7 October , 2005 Share Posted 7 October , 2005 David, I have A.F. A. 2042 - Field Service Post Card Also, my copy of A. F. Z. 21 isn't a certificate of Character on Demobilsation. but "Certificate of {Discharge/Transfer to Reserve/Disembodiment/Demobilsation} on Demobilisation." Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Beckett Posted 7 October , 2005 Share Posted 7 October , 2005 Langley, I have the following already scanned. B104-80B B2067 - Schedule 41 D401A Memo to Discharged soldier for pension B216 Pass for Recruits B2505A Certified copy of Attestation Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 10 October , 2005 Share Posted 10 October , 2005 AF C330 CERTIFICATE OF CONDUCT & ABILITY, CIVILIAN SUBORDINATE AF W3469 BOMB THROWING INSTRUCTORS CERTIFICATE All the Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Posted 10 October , 2005 Share Posted 10 October , 2005 I've just noticed this thread, and you folk may be interested to hear that some time ago I started a similar exercise for the Canadian Expeditionary Force. A discussion of the project may be found in this thread on the CEF Study Group Forum, or you can go direct to my project page: The C.E.F. Paper Trail - An Unofficial Guide to the Official Canadian Army Service Records from The Great War I always appreciate contributions of images of any CEF documents and related service records to add to the collection, which will include full descriptions of the documents, an analysis of the uses to which they were put, and a summary of the abbreviations commonly found in each document. I hope eventually to produce a resource which will help researchers extract as much as possible from the service records, although this will take some time. Regards and best wishes, Brett Payne Tauranga, New Zealand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 10 October , 2005 Share Posted 10 October , 2005 I've just noticed this thread, and you folk may be interested to hear that some time ago I started a similar exercise for the Canadian Expeditionary Force. A discussion of the project may be found in this thread on the CEF Study Group Forum, or you can go direct to my project page: The C.E.F. Paper Trail - An Unofficial Guide to the Official Canadian Army Service Records from The Great War I always appreciate contributions of images of any CEF documents and related service records to add to the collection, which will include full descriptions of the documents, an analysis of the uses to which they were put, and a summary of the abbreviations commonly found in each document. I hope eventually to produce a resource which will help researchers extract as much as possible from the service records, although this will take some time. Regards and best wishes, Brett Payne Tauranga, New Zealand <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Brett. Here's a few you haven't listed... M.F. W.2503... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 10 October , 2005 Share Posted 10 October , 2005 ...Mil.Bk.84... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 10 October , 2005 Share Posted 10 October , 2005 ...I notice that you don't have any images of the Canadian AB.64. Here's a couple of variants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROONAERT Posted 10 October , 2005 Share Posted 10 October , 2005 ...and... M.F. W.2572... Dave. (Feel free to use any of these images in your article) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWills Posted 10 October , 2005 Share Posted 10 October , 2005 A few to help you along the way - descriptions from a soldiers Notebook. P. 1934 Lodging, Fuel, Light & Stable allowances P 1934A Field Allowance (also O 1628 earleir on in war) P 1927 Forage O 1658 Income Duty O 1771 Travelling Claim P 1948 Postage Telegrams etc. (P?) 1927 Ration Allowance a.r. (??) N 1513 TP Stoppages O 1643 TP Stoppages remitted O 1642 Statement as to disposal of a deserters clothing O1622 Statement of a n.e. soldiers a/c O 1625 Requisition for M. O. O 1806 (is MO Medical O. or Money Order??) P & M Bk. N 1504 Claim for Bounty W 3458 Maternity Benefit Claim O 1834 Notification of charges against estates W 3094 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisharley9 Posted 11 October , 2005 Share Posted 11 October , 2005 sorry cant provide any scans as all of the forms nos I have provided are from E Bay & the qualitiy of the pictures is terrible All The Best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB64 Posted 15 October , 2005 Share Posted 15 October , 2005 ...Mil.Bk.84... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I am sure this is a Mil.Bk 64 rather than 84 - its just the print isnt clear - I have the same pattern of one and cant be certain of the number on it either, but I know WW2 Canadian service and paybooks are "Militia Book 64s". Alistair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AB64 Posted 17 October , 2005 Share Posted 17 October , 2005 I agree it does look like 84 (same on mine) - but I am going on the logic of it being the equivelent of the AB64, and also the later Canadian books being the Militia Book 64 - which would lead me to believe its 64 but I cant prove either way. As for scope of the thread, I must admit I thought it was drifting off a bit with the addition of army books, and range tables etc - if it drifts into the realms of manuals and so on it may become a bit of a beast - possibly the best option is to start adjacent threads for other linked themes. Just a thought Alistair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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