wolfy2477 Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 Can anyone help identify which regiment Albert was with - he is on the memorial at St Thomas church and there is a mention on his parents grave stone but I've hit a brick wall with anything else? ALBERT FAIRHURST Birthplace Ashton in MakerfieldAge 25Date of Death 6/3/1916Additional Information Son of James and Alice Fairhurst(Greenall), 369 Potters Row (row of cottages next to Potters Farm, Long Lane/BrynRoad), Bryn Road, Ashton in Makerfield, Wigan(1901). In 1910 the family was living at 103 Bryn Road South, Ashton in Makerfield. Brothers Thomas and Arthur. Sisters Mary Emily and Alice. Husband of Lilian/Lily Fairhurst(Clark), marriage 17/9/1910 St. Thomas’. In 1911 Albert, Lilian and son Thomas were living at 379 Potters Row, Bryn Road, Ashton in Makerfield. Albert was a coalminer.Type of Death Killed in ActionGrave/Memorial Ref. No CWGC (Commonwealth War Graves Commission) details.Grave/Memorial –(The above information is obtained from the headstone of James and Alice Fairhursts grave in Heath Road Graveyard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 Can you post a link to his entry on CWGC? I have not been able to find him listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughdiamond Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 Are you certain he's a military casualty, have you checked for a civilian death cert? Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 As a miner there is the possibility he did not serve in the forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERITAGE PLUS Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 An Albert Fairhurst is listed as being injured in a colliery accident at Wigan in 1914. Source: http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/index.php?text_search=Albert+PLOWS+&page=site/database/search&action=search_by_keyword&Go=Search Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy2477 Posted 30 June , 2014 Author Share Posted 30 June , 2014 I cannot find anything on his military service but he is listed on the towns ww1 war memorial and on his parents grave stone he is also named as killed in action so I have presumed he must be military - there is also a memorial at Garswood hall from the colliery were miners went to war although others were kept back as mining was an exempt occupation though I recall from the NCB museum at Wakfield just as hazardous. I believe some were recruited to help dig the trenches and some underground warfare blowing up enemy trenches from underneath. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 You could try a check of local newspapers. May be the council has the original list for the memorial and where the info came from. For a man to have been KIA and no grave reference or CWGC Memorial listing is fairly unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 There's a Pte 1800/330227 Albert Fairhurst Liverpool Regt Discharged 7/2/1919 SWB MIC Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 Think you'll find this one died 1916 . May be the OP should try and find out when these memorials/ Roll of Honour and grave inscription were made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 " Think you'll find this one died 1916 " Maybe he didn't. Maybe he pulled through. Maybe he had been captured. I don't know? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 I am not entirely disagreeing. The date and cause KIA seem quite emphatic. The mans death cert may shed more light. The Garswood Colliery might be more accurate if they still hold records. They should know if they employed him at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFBSM Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 I have just had a look at the England & Wales Deaths 1837 - 2007 database on FMP, only one death for Albert Fairhurst came up in 1916, details as follows: First name(s) ALBERT Last name FAIRHURST Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1884 Age 32 Death quarter 1 Death year 1916 District BOLTON County Lancashire Volume 8C Page 429 Country England Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Category Life Events (BDMs) Record collection Deaths & burials Collections from United Kingdom From the age it would appear this is not your Albert. The British Nationals Armed Forces Deaths 1796-2005 database on FMP show only two entries for Albert Fairhurst, both of these are from the Second World War and match up with the CWGC records. I would suggest going to the Parish and asking to look at their burial records, if they don't retain them from that era, they may be able to direct you in the right direction. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 Can anyone do anything to make the bottom line more legible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 "He died doing his duty ever remembered." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 30 June , 2014 Share Posted 30 June , 2014 Thanks. No further clues then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 1 July , 2014 Share Posted 1 July , 2014 If it helps? Click Baptism: 17 Aug 1890 St Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire, England Albert Fairhurst - [Child] of James Fairhurst & Alice Born: 25 Jul 1890 Abode: Long Lane Occupation: Collier Baptised by: H. B. Dollond Register: Baptisms 1887 - 1900, Page 75, Entry 593 Source: LDS British Film 1885659 Perhaps served under an alias? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 1 July , 2014 Share Posted 1 July , 2014 I don't subscribe to FindMyPast but might be worth checking these Click Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 1 July , 2014 Share Posted 1 July , 2014 His name was added to his parents headstone in or after 1924? After is mothers death. Possibly added by brother, sister or wife. The dates for the church and colliery memorials would be interesting. Would it be possible that it was a family plot and he is actually buried there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 1 July , 2014 Share Posted 1 July , 2014 A Family tree on ancestry links this MIC to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 1 July , 2014 Share Posted 1 July , 2014 1/8 Manchester Regiment 25 September 1914 : landed at Alexandria in Egypt.6 May 1915 : landed on Gallipoli.26 May 1915 : formation became 127th Brigade, 42nd (East Lancashire) Division.28 December 1915 : evacuated from Gallipoli, landed on Mudros and proceeded to Egypt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPT Posted 1 July , 2014 Share Posted 1 July , 2014 I don't think it's the Manchester Regiment man. Different parents and from Ancoats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 1 July , 2014 Share Posted 1 July , 2014 Thanks IPT. I looked on the Manchester Reg website of casualties and could find no Albert Fairhurst listed so that man presumably survived. This man is a mystery. Perhaps the OP will be able to get a death certificate or find him in a burial register? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8055Bell Posted 1 July , 2014 Share Posted 1 July , 2014 It's worth looking at the schedule on http://www.wlct.org/wigan/museums-archives/wals/family-history/ A Fairhurst is listed in the January-June 1918 list - Page 86 of Wigan paper and possibly the same chap in 1916 Leigh paper. Worth a call for Wolfy... Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRC Kevin Posted 1 July , 2014 Share Posted 1 July , 2014 Run up against a brick wall before trying to find Albert Fairhurst. Sadly, he's only one out of nine from Ashton that my colleagues and I have been unable to trace. (I suppose on the bright side that the other 291 can be found!) One of the problems with Ashton is there is no 'town' memorial, with Ashton being a collection of small townships in 1914, such as Bryn or Stubshaw. Consequently, there are a number of scattered memorial rolls and a few 'local' memorials, but nothing that commemorates all those from what we'd consider as 'Ashton' today. The other frustrating one from the St Thomas' Roll is for George Francis Moses, a 27 year old miner of 379 Bolton Rd. He's down as being 'killed in action' on 23 August 1918. Either an alias and there's nearly 2000 killed on that day, or the date and initials are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy Posted 1 July , 2014 Share Posted 1 July , 2014 Of 203 men who died 6/3/16 3 served under an alias but none are him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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