Cup - 24th Londons - Sydney Gunton Hall

[Simon_Fielding]

Hello all

I've been chewing this one over and I think it's time to put it 'out there'. I bought this cup in an antiques fair near Glasgow on holiday last year. The inscription reads:

WON BY

SYDNEY GUNTON HALL

WHILE WITH TERRITORIALS

DURING GREAT WAR

KILLED IN ACTION

MARCH 21ST 1918

There have been a couple of similar cups on auction sites: different shapes but the same inscription:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AN-UNUSUAL-24TH-LONDON-REGIMENT-CASUALTY-ITEM-/190909995696

I've naturally researched Sydney but have hit the predictable problems:

No 1911 census

No listing on any war memorial

No newspaper listing or photo

This is what I have:

Sydney Gunton Hall

Born 4 Nov1896 99 Huddleston Road Islington

Matthew Edwin Hall 1863 – 1900 Bertha Alice Gunton 1868 – 1944

1900 358 Essex Road Islington

1901 52 High Street Hornsey

Siblings Florence Hall 1891 – , Alfred Edwin Hall 1892 – , Grace Alys Hall

1899 – 1982

(Grace appears to be in some sort of institution in 1911 -

HALL, Grace Alice Institution: London Orphan Asylum, METROPOLITAN DISTRICT IMBECILE ASYLUM

HALL, Grace Alice Inmate Single F 11 1900 School London Islington

But marries Leslie Oliver Garner: 6 Jun 1923 Age: 23 Barnes, St Mary, Surrey, England

Death 1982 25 Jan Age: 82 Kensington and Chelsea, Greater London, England)

Mother Bertha visiting friend at 38 Barons Court Road Fulham - marital Status: Widowed, "Occupation: MANAGERESS FOR WINE COMPANY"

There's no sign that I can find of Alfred Edwin or Sydney Gunton in 1911 census - at school? Abroad with mother's wine trade links ?

By 1914 SDGW gives Sydney's residence as Chiswick and enlistment Kennington presumably 71 New Street, Kennington Park Road

Serves with 24th London Regt. (The Queens) service number 720923

To France 30th June 1915

Killed in action first day of Operation Michael

METZ-EN-COUTURE COMMUNAL CEMETERY BRITISH EXTENSION, Pas de Calais, France

HALL, Private, S G, 720923, 24th Bn., London Regiment. 21 March 1918. Age 21. Son of Bertha A. Hall, of 13, Elm Grove Rd., Barnes, London, and the late Mr. M. E. Hall. Grave Ref. IV. D. 14.

MIC confirms mother's address.

Am I missing anything? Any London experts help with memorials or newspapers?

Part of me feels sad the cups are seperated, but this one is well looked after and now has a bit of a stoty behind it....

[johnboy]

Any idea what the cup was awarded for?

[Simon_Fielding]

Neither mine nor either of the others say... Shooting?

[Simon_Fielding]

Cup here - quite plain

[Simon_Fielding]

And the pen*ion records give mother's address as 'Hawley', Weymouth Avenue South Ealing...

[Moriaty]

The memorial in Kennington Park, London, to the 24th Battalion, The London Regiment was unveiled in July 1924. I have a list of the soldiers commemorated and included is "Hall SG".

71 New Street where Sydney enlisted in the 24th Bn is close by.

I have come across a couple of other soldiers who must have enlisted around the same time:

720900 Private Percy Barratt, kia 5 April 1918

720916 Private William John Stripp, dow 2 May 1917

Moriaty

[Simon_Fielding]

That's great Moriarty - thanks. Glad he's commemorated somewhere in his home city! Will follow up Barratt and Stripp.

Best

Simon

[Simon_Fielding]

http://www.ww1cemeteries.com/british_cemeteries_memorials/london_reg_kennington_mem.htm

Sounds like the memorial has seen some wear and tear...