James Brown Posted 25 January , 2011 Share Posted 25 January , 2011 Dont know if this is the right board for this topic. If not then my apologies to the Mods. feel free to move it to an appropriate board. Hi Ive done a few searches on the forum for Commanding Officers of Battalion's who fought at the Battle of the Somme from the 2nd July to 26th November 1916. Doesnt seem to be a lot of information for the unknowledgeable like myself. So I thought it might be a good idea if we made one here.(Thats if its not already been done). I will start a list tonight for what I have and put it into some sort of legible form. Would be gratefull if any pals would like to add anything they have. I know that Bill (Bmac) has already done a list for the 1st day of the Battle, so lets complete the other 147 days if we can. I know we can do it! Aye James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dycer Posted 25 January , 2011 Share Posted 25 January , 2011 Lieut.-Col. W. Gemmill,8th Royal Scots.Battalion Somme service, 21st July to 5th August and 18th October to 27th November 1916. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Brown Posted 4 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 4 February , 2011 Thanks George *Amended Post* Where possible source should be described when submitting each CO. They can then be viewed by all the forum members who have an interest. If a conflicting source crops up it can be debated and a decision can be made wether to add him or not. Aye James The list is prepared and I should be able to get it up and running over the weekend folks. A few technical hiccups to complete. I certainly didnt know what I ws letting myself in for with this one! Aye James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Brown Posted 7 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2011 Ok here goes Battalion Commanding Officers on the Somme 2nd July - 26th November The list below is in Regimental Alphabetical order. Of course the list is nowhere complete ...or has even started I sometimes think, but it’s an exhaustive process and it’s most definitely work in progress. Please feel free to email, PM or phone me if I’ve inadvertently made a mistake. And of course the list needs to be finished if that’s possible. So again let me know what CO’s you want added. Where possible details of dates served at the Battle of the Somme will be shown. Dates of a casualty in the conflict will also be shown. Sources and acknowledgments will be added at the end of the post. Some of the Battalion CO’s who fought on the 1st day of the battle are listed here as the battle continued through to 26th November. A more comprehensive list of Battalion CO’s who were in command on the 1st of July can be viewed by clicking on the link below, therefore credit must go to bmac’s post (Bill) for his work on the subject of the 1st July. Bill’s work on the subject was my motivation for taking up this task. The post can be viewed here KIA – Killed in Action DOW – Died of Wounds Completed - Lt-Col British Infantry Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders 2nd Btn. 1/6th Btn. (Renfrewshire) 1/7th Btn. 1/8th Btn. (The Argyllshire) 10th Btn. 11th Btn. 14th Btn. Bedfordshire 1st Btn. Lt-Col Noel Wilfred Lauder - 14th June - 16th July 1916. Lt-Col Walter ALLASON, D.S.O. 16th July - 3rd December 1916. 2nd Btn. Major Hugh Stainton Poyntz, D.S.O. 10th November 1915 - 28th February 1918. 4th Btn. (Extra Reserve) Major Aynsley E. Greenwell - 4th September - 20th October 1916. Captain (Acting Lieutenant-Colonel) John Stanhope Collings-Wells, V.C., D.S.O. 20th October 1916 - 27th March 1918 6th Btn. Major (acting Lt-Col) Francis Hyde Edwards. 3rd May 1916 - 14th May 1917 7th Btn. Lt-Col George Dominic Price. 10th June - 18th October 1916. George Pilkington Mills D.S.O., 18th October 1916 - 18th January 1918. 8th Btn. Colonel Lord Henry Scott. 2nd June 1916 - 4th April 1917. Promoted to GHQ. Black Watch (Royal Highlanders) 1st Btn. Lt-Col J G H Hamilton until September 1916. Lt-Col V M Fortune from 16 Sep 1916. 4/5th Btn. Lt-Col G A McL Sceales (Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders) 1/6th Btn. (Perth) Lt-Col A. O. Jenney (The Cameronians) until October 1916. Lt-Col T. M. Booth (Gordon Highlanders) from 31 Oct 1916. 1/7th Btn. (Fyfe) Lt-Col H M Allen (wounded at High Wood 28 July 1916). Command passed to Lt-Col G R H Cheape MC. 8th Btn. Lt-Col C W E Gordon (Gordon Highlanders) until the 22 Sep 1916. Command passed to Lt-Colonel Sir G Abercromby (Baronet) 9th Btn. Lt-Col S A Innes 12th Btn. (Labour) Maj (T/Lt-Col) Harrie Jennings Bramly psc. Border Regiment 1st Btn. Lt Col Archibald Jenner Ellis 2nd Btn. Lt. Col. E.I. De S. Thorpe 1/5th Btn. 6th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 11th Btn. Cambridgeshire Regiment (Fen Tigers) 1/1st Btn. Lt-Colonel Riddell Cameron Highlanders (Queen's Own) 1st Btn. 5th Btn. 6th Btn. 7th Btn. Major Cunliffe Hebbert Marsh, DSO, OBE (Temp Lt-Col). Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. Lt Col Vincent Corbett Sandilands 5/6th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn. Cheshire Regiment 1st Btn. 1/5th Btn. 1/6th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn. 11th Btn. 13th Btn. 15th Btn. (1st Birkenhead) 16th Btn. (2nd Birkenhead) 19th Btn. (Labour) Coldstream Guards 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 3rd Btn. Lt-Col J. V. Campbell DSO 4th Btn. Connaught Rangers 6th Btn. Lt- Col. J. S. M. Lenox-Conyngham, (10/10/1914 to 03/09/1916 KIA). Replaced by Major Rowland Charles Feilding Devonshire Regiment 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. Lt Col Alfred Joseph Elton Sunderland 17th March 1916 – 31st July 1917 KIA. Mid 3 times. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. 12th Btn. (Labour) Dorsetshire Regiment 1st Btn. 5th Btn. 6th Btn. Duke of Cornwall’s Light Infantry 1st Btn. Lt-Col Harold FARGUS, CMG, DSO 1/5th Btn. Lt-Col William Arthur BAWDEN, TD Lt-Col Trevor CARUS-WILSON, DSO, 11th Nov 1916 - 27th March 1918, 6th Btn. Lt-Col Thomas Richard STOKOE, DSO May 1915 – 1918 MID twice. 7th Btn. Major (Temp Lt-Col) Hubert George Richard BURGESS-SHORT, DSO, Som LI. 10th Btn. (Cornwall Pioneers) Lt-Col Ernest Alfred Brooke ALSTON, Northamptons 12th Btn. (Labour) Lt-Col Dudley Acland MILLS, RE Duke of Wellington's West Riding Regiment 2nd Btn. 1/4th Btn. 1/5th Btn. 1/6th Btn. 1/7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn. 12th Btn. (Labour) Durham Light Infantry 2nd Btn. 1/5th Btn. 1/6th Btn. 1/7th Btn. 1/9th Btn. 10th Btn. 11th Btn. 12th Btn. 13th Btn. 14th Btn. 15th Btn. 18th Btn. (1st County) 19th Btn. (2nd County) 20th Btn. (Wearside) 22nd Btn. (3rd County Pioneers) East Kent Regiment (Buffs) 1st Btn. 6th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. East Lancashire Regiment 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 8th Btn. 11th Btn. (Accrington) East Surrey Regiment 1st Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. 12th Btn. (Bermondsey) 13th Btn. (Wandsworth) East Yorkshire Regiment 1st Btn. 1/4th Btn. 6th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 10th Btn. (1st Hull) 11th Btn. (2nd Hull) 12th Btn. (3rd Hull) 13th Btn. (4th Hull) Essex 1st Btn 2nd Btn 9th Btn 10th Btn 11th Btn 13th Btn (West Ham) Lt. Col P.R. Papillon 2nd February 1915 - 28th August 1916. Capt. S.E. Collier 28th August 1916 - 5th September 1916. Lt. Col P.R. Papillon 5th September 1916 - 1st October 1916. Major W.H. Carter 1st October 1916 - after 26th November 1916, up to April 1917 Gloucestershire 1st Btn. 1/4th Btn. 2/4th Btn. 1/5th Btn. 2/5th Btn. 1/6th Btn. 2/6th Btn. 8th Btn. Lt-Col A. Carton De Wiart V.C. 10th Btn. 12th Btn. (Bristol) 13th Btn. (Forest of Dean Pioneers) 14th Btn. (West of England) Gordon Highlanders 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. Lt Col B G R Gordon DSO 1/4th Btn. 1/5th Btn. (Buchan & Formatin) 1/6th Btn. (Banff & Donside) 1/7th Btn. (Deeside Highland) 8/10th Btn. 9th Btn. (Pioneers) Grenadier Guards 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 3rd Btn 4th Btn. Major (Temp Lt-Col) Lord Henry Seymour, DSO Hampshire 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 11th Btn. (Pioneers) 14th Btn. (1st Portsmouth) 15th Btn. (2nd Portsmouth) Hertfordshire 1/1st Btn. Highland Light Infantry 2nd Btn. 1/9th Btn. (Glasgow Highland) 10/11th Btn. 12th Btn. 14th Btn. 15th Btn. (1st Glasgow) (Tramways) Lt Col Clayton Gascoyne Beauchamp 16th Btn. (2nd Glasgow) (Boys Brigade) Lt Col D Laidlaw VD 17th Btn. (3rd Glasgow) Lt Col D S Norton VD 18th Btn. (4th Glasgow) Honourable Artillery Company 1/1st Btn Lt Col Edward Treffry commanded the battalion until 3 Sept 1916 (when he left sick as a result of old wounds) and his place was taken by Capt (Acting Major) Ernest PC Boyle. Irish Guards 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. King's Liverpool Regiment 1st Btn. Lt Col Charles E Goff MC 4th Btn. (Extra Reserve) 1/5th Btn. 1/6th Btn. (Rifle) 1/7th Btn. 1/8th Btn. (Irish) 1/9th Btn. 1/10th Btn. (Scottish) Lt Col JR Davidson CMG Lt Col FWM Drew DSO 11th Btn. (Pioneers) 12th Btn. 13th Btn. 17th Btn. 18th Btn. Lt Col EH Trotter KIA 8 July 1916 19th Btn. (2nd City) 20th Btn. (4th City) King's Own Royal Lancaster Regiment 1st Btn. Major John Nisbet Bromilow – KIA 1 July 1916 Lt-Col Oswald Cuthbert Borrett from 2nd July 1916 1/4th Btn. Lt-Col Joseph Leonard Swainson – DOW 9 Aug 1916 Lt-Col George B Balfour – from 10th August 1916 1/5th Btn. Lt-Col Frederick Eaves DSO Major Charles Alfred Walker Anderson Lt-Col Charles Alfred Walker Anderson – KIA 18 Sep 1916 Lt-Col Rupert Henry Anderson-Morshead – 19 September 1916 – November 1916 Major E Atkinson – November 1916 - ? 7th Btn. Lt-Col Tudor Fitzjohn 8th Btn. Lt-Col G E A Smith – until 25th October 1916 Lt-Col W S Hunt – from 25th October 1916 11th Btn. Lt-Col William Buchanan Ritchie Major Harold Shipley – part October 1916 Major Henry Llewellyn Evans – part October 1916 Lt-Col William Buchanan Ritchie Kings Own Scottish Borderers 1st Btn. Lt Col Alfred John Welch (commanded 28th April 1915 – 16th August 1917) 2nd Btn. Lt Col David Ramsay Sladen CMG, DSO, from April 1915. Wounded 22nd July 1916 and replaced by Lt Col Percival Henry Stevenson, DSO. Lt Col Sladen resumed command 14th November 1916. 1/6th Btn. Lt Col James Charles Walter Connell, DSO, from 15th December 1915. Invalided out October 23rd, 1916 and replaced, temporarily, by Major AR Innes-Browne, who was in turn succeeded, on the 18th November, by Brevet Major (later Lt Col) Gerald Brice Ferguson Smyth, DSO. 7/8th Btn. Lt Col Thomas Byrne Sellar CMG, DSO (commanded 28th May 1916 – 27th May 1917) King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry 2nd Btn. 1/4th Btn. 6th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn 12th Btn. (Miners) (Pioneers) King's Royal Rifle Corps 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. H. F. W. Bircham D.S.O. – Poziers 23rd July 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn 11th Btn. 12th Btn. 13th Btn. 16th Btn. (Church Lads Brigade) 17th Btn. (British Empire League) 18th Btn. (Arts and Crafts) 20th Btn. (British Empire League Pioneers) 21st Btn. (Yeoman Rifles) King's Shropshire Light Infantry 1st Btn Lt-Col B. E. Murray, D.S.O. M.I.D. (5) 5th Btn Major G. A. Delme-Murray, D.S.O. M.I.D. 6th Btn Lt-Col E. A. Wood, C.M.G., D.S.O. (+ 3 Bars), Croix de Guerre, M.I.D. (4) Gassed 4th Sept 1916 and sent to U.K. Major Harold Echalaz, Welch, D.S.O., M.I.D. (2) From 4th Sept 1916 - 24th Oct, 1916 Lt-Col E. A., Wood, returned 24th Oct. 1916 7th Btn Lt-Col R. E. Negus. Wounded 14th July 1916 Major R.E.M., Heathcote, (2nd Royal Scots), from 15th July 1916 to 4th Oct 1916. Lt-Col K.H.L., Arnott (East Lancs.) from 4th Oct. 1916 Lancashire Fusiliers 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 2/5th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn. 11th Btn. 15th Btn. (1st Salford) 16th Btn. (2nd Salford) 17th Btn. (1st South-East Lancashire) 18th Btn. (2nd South-East Lancashire) 19th Btn. (3rd Salford) 20th Btn. (4th Salford) Leicestershire Regiment 1st Btn. 1/4th Btn. 1/5th Btn. 6th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. Lt-Col Joseph George Mignon KIA 15/7/1916 9th Btn. 11th Btn. (Midland Pioneers) Leinster Regiment (Prince of Wales's) 2nd Btn. 7th Btn. Lincolnshire Regiment 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 1/4th Btn. 1/5th Btn. Lt.-Col - T. E. Sandall 6th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 10th Btn. (Grimsby) London Regiment 1/1st Btn. (Royal Fusiliers) 1/2nd Btn. (Royal Fusiliers) 1/3rd Btn. (Royal Fusiliers) 1/4th Btn. (Royal Fusiliers) 1/5th Btn. (London Rifle Brigade) 1/6th Btn. 1/7th Btn. 1/8th Btn. (Post Office Rifles) 1/9th Btn. (Queen Victoria's Rifles) 1/12th Btn. (The Rangers) 1/13th Btn. (Kensington) 2/13th Btn. (Kensington) 1/14th Btn. (London Scottish) 2/14th Btn. (London Scottish) 1/15th Btn. (Prince of Wales's Own) (Civil Service Rifles) 2/15th Btn. (Prince of Wales's Own) (Civil Service Rifles) 1/16th Btn. (Queen's Westminster Rifles) 2/16th Btn. (Queen's Westminster Rifles) 1/17th Btn. (Poplar & Stepney Rifles) 2/17th Btn. (Poplar & Stepney Rifles) 1/18th Btn. (London Irish Rifles) 2/18th Btn. (London Irish Rifles) 1/19th Btn. (St. Pancras) 2/19th Btn. (St. Pancras) 1/20th Btn. (Blackheath & Woolwich) 2/20th Btn. (Blackheath & Woolwich) 1/21st Btn. (First Surrey Rifles) 2/21st Btn. (First Surrey Rifles) 1/22nd Btn. (The Queen's) 2/22nd Btn. (The Queen's) 1/23rd Btn. 2/23rd Btn. 1/24th Btn. (The Queen's) 2/24th Btn. (The Queen's) Loyal North Lancashire Regiment 1st Btn. 1/4th Btn. 1/5th Btn. 7th Btn. Lt. Thomas Orde Lawdre Wilkinson V.C. (Temp) KIA 5/7/1916?? Barry Cuttell’s book reads "Battalion's Commander" ? 8th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn. 1/12th Btn. (Pioneers) Manchester Regiment 2nd Btn. 11th Btn. 12th Btn. 16th Btn. (1st City) 17th Btn. (2nd City) 18th Btn. (3rd City) 19th Btn. (4th City) 20th Btn. (5th City) 21st Btn. (6th City) 22nd Btn. (7th City) 23rd Btn. (8th City) 24th Btn. (Oldham) (Pioneers) Middlesex Regiment (Duke of Cambridge's Own) 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. Lt Col Edwin Thomas Falkiner Sandys Died 13th Sept 1916 4th Btn. 1/7th Btn. 1/8th Btn. 11th Btn. 12th Btn. Lt-Col Maxwell GCO 13th Btn. 16th Btn. (Public Schools) 17th Btn. (1st Football) 18th Btn. (1st Public Works Pioneers) 19th Btn. (2nd Public Works Pioneers) 20th Btn. (Shoreditch) 21st Btn. (Islington) 23rd Btn. (2nd Football) Monmouthshire Regiment 1/1st Btn. (Pioneers) 1/2nd Btn. (Pioneers) 1/3rd Btn. (Pioneers) Newfoundland Regiment 1st Btn. Lt-Col - Arthur Lovell Hadow C.M.G. 6th December 1915-1918 Norfolk Regiment 1st Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. North Staffordshire Regiment 1st Btn. 1/5th Btn. 1/6th Btn. 8th Btn. Major Cecil Wedgewood D.S.O. KIA 3/7/1916 9th Btn. (Pioneers) Northamptonshire Regiment 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 5th Btn. (Pioneers) 6th Btn. 7th Btn. Northumberland Fusiliers 1st Btn. 1/4th Btn. 1/5th Btn. 1/6th Btn. 1/7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn. 11th Btn. 12th Btn. 13th Btn. 14th Btn. (Pioneers) 16th Btn. (Newcastle) 17th Btn. (N.E.R. Pioneers) 18th Btn. (1st Tyneside Pioneers) 19th Btn. (2nd Tyneside Pioneers) 20th Btn. (1st Tyneside Scottish) 21th Btn. (2nd Tyneside Scottish) 22th Btn. (3rd Tyneside Scottish) 23th Btn. (4th Tyneside Scottish) 24th Btn. (1st Tyneside Irish) 25th Btn. (2nd Tyneside Irish) 26th Btn. (3rd Tyneside Irish) 27th Btn. (4th Tyneside Irish) Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment (Sherwood Foresters) 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 1/5th Btn. 1/6th Btn. 1/7th Btn. (Robin Hood) 1/8th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn. 11th Btn. 12th Btn. (Pioneers) 15th Btn. (Nottingham) 16th Btn. (Chatsworth Rifles) 17th Btn. (Rangers) 20th Btn. (Labour) Ox & Bucks Light Infantry 2nd Btn. 1/4th Btn. (Buckinghamshire) 2/4th Btn. (Buckinghamshire) 1/1st Btn. 2/1st Btn. 5th Btn. 6th Btn. Queen's (Royal West Surrey) 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 6th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 10th Btn. 11th Btn. Rifle Brigade 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 3rd Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn. 11th Btn. 12th Btn. 13th Btn. 16th Btn. (Dt. Pancras) Royal Berkshire 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 1/4th Btn. 2/4th Btn. 5th Btn. 6th Btn. 8th Btn. Royal Dublin Fusiliers 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn. Royal Fusiliers (London Regiment) 1st Btn 2nd Btn 4th Btn 7th Btn 8th Btn Lt Col A. C. Annesely DSO (DOW 8th July, 1916) Lt Col Elliott-Cooper MC From 8th July, 1916 - 30th Nov, 1917 (awarded DSO at Arras and VC for Cambrai, where captured and subsequently died of his wounds) 9th Btn 10th Btn 11th Btn 12th Btn 13th Btn 17th Btn (Empire) 20th Btn (3rd Public Schools) 22nd Btn (Kensington) 23rd Btn (1st Sportsman’s) 24th Btn (2nd Sportsman’s) 26th Btn (Bankers) 32nd Btn (East Ham) 37th Btn (Labour) Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. (Co. Tyrone) 10th Btn. (Derry) 11th Btn. (Donegal & Fermanagh) Royal Irish Fusiliers (Princess Victoria's) 1st Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. (Co. Armagh) Royal Irish Regiment 2nd Btn. 6th Btn. Royal Irish Rifles 1st Btn 2nd Btn 7th Btn 8th Btn. (East Belfast) 9th Btn. (West Belfast) Lt Col F P Crozier 10th Btn. (South Belfast) 11th Btn. (South Antrim) 12th Btn. (Central Antrim) 13th Btn. (1st Co. Down) 14th Btn. (Young Citizens) 15th Btn. (North Belfast) 16th Btn. (2nd Co. Down) (Pioneers) Royal Munster Fusiliers 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 8th Btn. Royal Naval Division 1st Btn (Royal Marine) Lt.-Col F. J. W. Cartwright DSO 2nd Btn. (Royal Marine) Lt.-Col A. R. H. Hutchinson CB, CMG, DSO Anson Btn. Lt.-Col F. J. Saunders DSO, RMLI. KIA 13th Nov, 1916. Succeeded by Lieut.-Commander Bernard Ellis DSO, RNVR Drake Btn. Captain (Temp. Lt.-Col) A. S. Tetley RMLI DOW 13th Nov, 1916. Succeeded by Lt.-Col Annesley Hawke Btn. Major (Brevet Lt.-Col) Leslie O. Wilson CMG, DSO, RMLI, MP (wounded 13th Nov 1916) Succeeded by Lieut.-Commander E. M. Lockwood DSO, RNVR Hood Btn. Lt.-Col Bernard C. Freyberg VC, CMG, DSO, (wounded 14th Nov, 1916) At which time command then passed to Lieut.-Commander W. M. Egerton DSO, RNVR Howe Btn. Commander William George Astel Ramsay-Fairfax DSO, RN Nelson Btn. Major (Brevet Lt.-Col) Norman O. Burge RMLI KIA 13th Nov, 1916, MID Succeeded by Lt.-Commander Edward W. Nelson, RNVR, who was promoted Commander on 14th Nov, 1916. Royal Scots 2nd Btn. 5/6th Btn. 1/8th Btn. Lt.-Col. W. Gemmill, 21st July - 5th August. 18th October - 27th November 1916. 1/9th Btn. (Highlanders) 11th Btn 12th Btn. 13th Btn. 15th Btn. (1st Edinburgh) Lt Col Archibald G. B. Urmston 16th Btn. (2nd Edinburgh) Lt-Col Sir George McCrae V. D. 17th Btn. (Rosebury) Royal Scots Fusiliers 1st Btn. Lt-Col A. M. H. Forbes 2nd Btn. Lt-Col R. K. Walsh 6/7th Btn. Major E. I. D. Gordon 25th June 1916 Royal Sussex Regiment 2nd Btn. 1/5th Btn. (Cinque Ports) 7th Btn. 8th Btn. (Pioneers) 9th Btn. 11th Btn. (1st South Down) 12th Btn. (2nd South Down) 13th Btn. (3rd South Down) Royal Warwickshire Regiment 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 1/5th Btn. Lt-Col Sladen later promoted to command 143 Brigade. 2/5th Btn. 1/6th Btn. Lt-Col Franklin DSO Wounded 1st July 1916 2/6th Btn. 1/7th Btn. Lt-Col Jimmy Knox (Wounded 2rd July) returned to command 24th November. 2/7th Btn. 1/8th Btn. Lt-Col Wethered (left in September to command the Reserve Army Rest Camp). 2/8th Btn. Lt-Col Edgar Arthur Innes KIA 1st July 1916 10th Btn. Lt-Col R.M. Heath (Wounded 3rd July) Major Albert N. Henderson (3rd July - KIA 24th July) 11th Btn. Lt-Col Collison 14th Btn. 15th Btn. Lt-Col Harding 16th Btn. Royal Welsh Fusiliers 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 1/4th Btn. (Denbighshire) Lt-Col W.C.W. Hawkes of 106th Hazara Pioneers, Indian army. (Apptd 15th Feb 1916, returned to Indian Army 3rd Feb 1917). 9th Btn. Lt Col R. A. Berners (appointed 24 Dec 1915) 10th Btn. 13th Btn. (1st North Wales) Lt Col O S Flower, DOW (casualty on 10 July 16) Lt Col Cambell DSO 14th Btn. Lt Col David Davies, MP, (recalled London 7 July 1916) Major G H Gwyther (KIA 10 July 1916) Lt Col H V R Hodson 15th Btn. (1st London Welsh) Lt Col R.C. Bell, DSO 16th Btn. Lt-Col Carden (KIA 10th July, 1916) Sec Com Major McLellan Lt Col ANG Jones DSO (13th July) 17th Btn. (2nd North Wales) Lt Col J A Ballard (KIA 10 July 1916) Lt Col J B Cockburn DSO Lt Col Beasley DSO (appointed "early Nov" 1916) 19th Btn. Royal West Kent Regiment (Queen's Own) 1st Btn. 6th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 10th Btn. (Kent County) 11th Btn. (Lewisham) Lt-Col Arthur Fitzhenry Townshend, (DOW 16/09/1916). Buried at Heilly Station Cemetery. Scots Guards 1st Btn. Maj M. Barne – temp command - 26th July – 8th August. Lt-Col S. H. Godman – Took command 8th August. 2nd Btn. Lt-Col R. S. Tempest – Corps reserve to XIV Corps. Seaforth Highlanders 2nd Btn. Lt Col J O Hopkinson 1/4th Btn. (Ross Highland) 1/5th Btn. (Sutherland & Caithness) 1/6th Btn. (Morayshire) 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. (Pioneers) Somerset Light Infantry (Prince Albert's) 1st Btn. 6th Btn. 7th Btn. Lt-Col Troyt-Bullock throughout the period. 8th Btn. South Lancashire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Volunteers) 2nd Btn. 1/4th Btn. 1/5th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 11th Btn. South Staffordshire 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 1/5th Btn. 1/6th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. (Pioneers) 12th Btn. (Labour) South Wales Borderers 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 5th Btn. (Pioneers) 6th Btn. (Pioneers) 10th Btn. (1st Gwent) 11th Btn. (2nd Gwent) 12th Btn. (3rd Gwent) Suffolk Regiment 2nd Btn. 1/4th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. 11th Btn (Cambridgeshire) 12th Btn. (East Anglian) Welsh Guards 1st Btn. Welsh Regiment 2nd Btn. 1/6th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn. (1st Rhonda) 13th Btn. (2nd Rhonda) 14th Btn. (Swansea) Lt-Col Hayes 15th Btn. (Carmarthenshire) Major Anthony KIA 14/7/1916 16th Btn. (Cardiff City) 17th Btn. (1st Glamorgan) 18th Btn. (2nd Glamorgan) 19th Btn. (Glamorgan Pioneers) West Yorkshire Regiment (Prince of Wales's Own) 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 1/5th Btn. 1/6th Btn. 1/7th Btn. (Leeds Rifles) 1/8th Btn. (Leeds Rifles) 9th Btn. 10th Btn. 11th Btn. 12th Btn. 15th Btn. (1st Leeds) 16th Btn. (1st Bradford) 17th Btn. (2nd Leeds) 18th Btn. (2nd Bradford) 21st Btn. (Wool Textile Pioneers) 22nd Btn. (Labour) Wiltshire Regiment 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. Lt-Col Gillson (severely wounded) 8/7/1916 Captain (temp) Frank Richard Mumford KIA 8/7/1916 6th Btn. Worcestershire Regiment 1st Btn. 2nd Btn. 3rd Btn. 4th Btn. 1/7th Btn. 2/7th Btn. 1/8th Btn. 2/8th Btn. 10th Btn. (Attchd) Lt-Col Royston-Piggott KIA 3/7/1916 14th Btn. (Severn Valley Pioneers) York and Lancaster Regiment 2nd Btn. 1/4th Btn. (Hallamshire) 1/5th Btn. 6th Btn. 7th Btn. (Pioneers) 8th Btn. Lt Col B L Maddison KIA 1st July 1916 9th Btn. 10th Btn. 12th Btn. (Sheffield) 13th Btn. (1st Barnsley) 14th Btn. (2nd Barnsley) Yorkshire Regiment (Alexandra, Princess of Wales's Own) 2nd Btn. 1/4th Btn. 1/5th Btn. 6th Btn. 7th Btn. 8th Btn. 9th Btn. 10th Btn. 12th Btn. (Teesside Pioneers) 13th Btn. Canadian 1st Canadian Division 1st Canadian Brigade: 1st Battalion (Ontario Regiment), CEF. 2nd Battalion (Eastern Ontario Regiment), CEF. 3rd Battalion (Toronto Regiment), CEF. 4th Battalion (Central Ontario), CEF. 2nd Canadian Brigade: 5th Battalion (Western Cavalry), CEF. 7th Battalion (1st British Columbia), CEF. 8th Battalion (90th (Rifles) Regiment), CEF. 10th Battalion (Canadians), CEF. 3rd Canadian Brigade: 13th Battalion (Royal Highlanders of Canada), CEF. 14th Battalion (Royal Montreal Regiment), CEF. 15th Battalion (48th Highlanders of Canada), CEF. 16th Battalion (Canadian Scottish), CEF. Pioneers: 1st Canadian Pioneer Battalion. 107th Canadian Pioneer Battalion. Attached TROOPS: 17th Battalion, CEF. 18th Battalion Canadian Infantry. Newfoundland Companies. October 1914 – December 1914. Left division, made up to battalion strength. Regiment joined British 29th Division Sept 1915. (See Above under British Infantry) 2nd Canadian Division 4th Canadian Brigade: 18th Battalion (Western Ontario) 19th Battalion (Central Ontario) 20th Battalion (Central Ontario) 21st Battalion (Eastern Ontario) 5th Canadian Brigade: 22nd Battalion (Canadien Francais). Major A.E. Debuc – Arrived Somme area 10th September 24th Battalion (Victoria Rifles). 25th Battalion (Nova Scotia). 26th Battalion (New Brunswick). 6th Canadian Brigade 27th Battalion (City of Winnipeg). 28th Battalion (North West). 29th Battalion (Vancouver). 31st Battalion (Alberta). Pioneers: 2nd Canadian Pioneer Battalion. 3rd Canadian Division 7th Canadian Brigade: The Royal Canadian Regiment. Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry. 42nd Battalion (Royal Highlanders). 49th Battalion (Edmonton). 8th Canadian Brigade: 1st Battalion Canadian Mounted Rifles. 2nd Battalion Canadian Mounted Rifles. 4th Battalion Canadian Mounted Rifles. 5th Battalion Canadian Mounted Rifles. 9th Canadian Brigade: (Joined the Division in January 1916) 43rd Battalion (Cameron Highlanders). 52nd Battalion (North Ontario). 58th Battalion (Central Ontario). 60th Battalion (Victoria Rifles). Pioneers: 3rd Canadian Pioneer Battalion. January 8, 1916 - May 1917 (Disbanded); 4th Canadian Division 10th Canadian Brigade: 44th Battalion (Manitoba). 46th Battalion (South Saskatchewan). 47th Battalion (British Columbia). 50th Battalion (Calgary). 11th Canadian Brigade: 54th Battalion (Kootenay). 75th Battalion (Mississauga). 87th Battalion (Canadian Grenadier Guards). 102nd Battalion (North British Columbia). 12th Canadian Brigade: 38th Battalion (Ottawa). 51st Battalion (Edmonton). 72nd Battalion (Seaforth Highlanders). 73rd Battalion (Royal Highlanders). 78th Battalion (Winnipeg Grenadier). 87th Battalion (Canadian Grenadier). Pioneers: 67th (Western Scot) Pioneer Battalion Canadian Infantry. September 1, 1916 - November 11, 1918; Australia 1st Division AIF 1st Brigade (New South Wales) 1st Battalion 2nd Battalion 3rd Battalion 4th Battalion 2nd Brigade (Victoria) 5th Battalion 6th Battalion 7th Battalion 8th Battalion 3rd Brigade 9th Battalion (Queensland) 10th Battalion (South Australia) 11th Battalion (Western Australia) 12th Battalion (SA, WA, Tasmania) Artillery 1st Division Artillery Medical Services 1st Field Ambulance 2nd Field Ambulance 3rd Field Ambulance 2nd Division AIF 5th Brigade (New South Wales) 17th Battalion 18th Battalion 19th Battalion 20th Battalion 6th Brigade (Victoria) 21st Battalion 22nd Battalion 23rd Battalion 24th Battalion 7th Brigade 25th Battalion (Queensland) 26th Battalion (Queensland) 27th Battalion (South Australia) 28th Battalion (Western Australia) Artillery 2nd Division Artillery Field Ambulance 2nd Division Field Ambulance 4th Division AIF 4th Brigade 13th Battalion (New South Wales) 14th Battalion (Victoria) 15th Battalion (Queensland & Tasmania) 16th Battalion (Western Australia & South Australia) 4th Light Trench Mortar Battery 4th Machinegun Company 12th Brigade 45th Battalion (New South Wales) 46th Battalion (Victoria) 47th Battalion (Queensland & Tasmania) 48th Battalion (South Australia & Tasmania) 13th Brigade 49th Battalion (Queensland) 50th Battalion (South Australia) 51st Battalion (Western Australia) 52nd Battalion (South Australia, Western Australia & Tasmania) Artillery 4th Division Artillery Field Ambulance 4th Division Field Ambulance 5th Division AIF 8th Brigade 29th Battalion (Victoria) 30th Battalion (New South Wales) 31st Battalion (Queensland & Victoria) 32nd Battalion (Western Australia & South Australia) 14th Brigade (New South Wales) 53rd Battalion 54th Battalion 55th Battalion 56th Battalion 15th Brigade (Victoria) 57th Battalion (New South Wales) 58th Battalion 59th Battalion 60th Battalion Artillery 5th Division Artillery Field Ambulance 5th Division Field Ambulance New Zealand New Zealand Division 1st New Zealand Brigade 1st Battalion, Wellington Regiment 1st Battalion, Canterbury Regiment 1st Battalion, Auckland Regiment 1st Battalion, Otago Regiment 2nd New Zealand Brigade 2nd Battalion, Wellington Regiment 2nd Battalion, Canterbury Regiment 2nd Battalion, Auckland Regiment 2nd Battalion, Otago Regiment 3rd New Zealand (Rifle) Brigade 1st Battalion, New Zealand Rifle Brigade 2nd Battalion, New Zealand Rifle Brigade 3rd Battalion, New Zealand Rifle Brigade 4th Battalion, New Zealand Rifle Brigade Otago Mounted Rifle Regiment South Africa 1st South African Infantry Brigade Brigadier General H.T. (Tim) Lukin 1st South African Infantry Regiment Lt Col F.S. Dawson 2nd South African Infantry Regiment Lt Col W.E.C. Tanner 3rd South African Infantry Regiment Lt Col E.F. Thackeray 4th SA Infantry Regiment Lt Col F.A. Jones, DSO (KIA Benfray Wood 11th July 1916). Major D.M. MacLeod SA Heavy Artillery Brigade 71st Siege Battery, RGA 72nd Siege Battery, RGA 73rd Siege Battery, RGA 74th Siege Battery, RGA SA Field Artillery SA Horse (mounted rifles): ten battalions SA Rifles (dismounted rifles): two battalions Cape Corps: two infantry battalions and a labour battalion Engineer, signals, supply and transport, medical, and veterinary units SA Native Labour Contingent. A very gracious thank you must go towards the following Forum Pals, Books and Authors, Curators, Archivists, and Websites Forum Pals bmac, dycer, Bardess, michaeldr, Alan Tucker, Pioron, geraint, archangel9, Tom A McCluskey, longboat, BMoorhouse, Grumpy, Charlesmessenger, 6th Shropshires, Books and Websites British Battalions on the Somme – Ray Westlake One day on the Somme – Barry Cuttell 148 Days on the Somme – Barry Cuttell First Day of the Somme - Martin Middlebrook CWGC The Western Front Association Wikipedia Museums and Regimental Archives King's Own Royal Regiment Museum, Lancaster, - Peter Donnelly – Curator King’s Own Scottish Borderers Regimental Museum and Archives - Ian Martin The DCLI Museum, the Keep, Cornwall - Hugo White The Duke of Lancaster's Regiment - Area Secretary Liverpool - Captain M R Hunt Honourable Artillery Company, London - Justine Taylor - Archivist Museum of the Queen's Lancashire Regiment Preston, Lancashire - Doug Farrington (head of museum research) (East Lancashire Regiment) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Brown Posted 7 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2011 Bit of advice needed from the mods. Can I highlight ....say a Regiment Name or CO in a colour? If so how? Aye James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 Use the full editor when amending a post. Next to the size of font is an A and a paintbrush where you can change the font colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bardess Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 1st Royal Warwickshire Lieut Colonel G N B Forster 4th Grenadier Guards Major [Temp Lieut Colonel] Lord Henry Seymour, DSO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 (edited) 63rd (Royal Naval) Division 1st R.M.L.I. Btn = Lieut.-Colonel F. J. W. Cartwright DSO, RMLI 2nd R.M.L.I. Btn. = Lieut.-Colonel A. R. H. Hutchinson CB, CMG, DSO, RMLI Anson Btn. = Lieut.-Colonel F. J. Saunders DSO, RMLI [killed 13Nov1916] succeeded by Lieut.-Commander Bernard Ellis DSO, RNVR Drake Btn. = Captain (Temp. Lieut.-Colonel) A. S. Tetley RMLI [DoW 13Nov1916] succeeded by Lieut.-Colonel Annesley Hawke Btn. = Major (Brevet Lieut.-Colonel) Leslie O. Wilson CMG, DSO, RMLI, MP [wounded 13Nov1916] succeeded by Lieut.-Commander E. M. Lockwood DSO, RNVR Hood Btn. = Lieut.-Colonel Bernard C. Freyberg VC, CMG, DSO, [wounded 14Nov1916] at which time command then passed to Lieut.-Commander W. M. Egerton DSO, RNVR Howe Btn. = Commander William George Astel Ramsay-Fairfax DSO, RN Nelson Btn. = Major (Brevet Lieut.-Colonel) Norman O. Burge RMLI [killed 13Nov1916, MiD] succeeded by Lieut.-Commander Edward W. Nelson RNVR who was promoted Commander on 14Nov1916 Please treat the 'successors' with caution; the various histories are not always in agreement. It may be that the variations in the accounts results from whoever took over in the midst of battle, not necessarily being officially confirmed in that post later E & O A Michael Edited 7 February , 2011 by michaeldr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Brown Posted 7 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2011 Use the full editor when amending a post. Next to the size of font is an A and a paintbrush where you can change the font colour Hi Diane I knew it would be something simple and out of my depth Aye James Simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Brown Posted 7 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2011 63rd (Royal Naval) Division Please treat the 'successors' with caution; the various histories are not always in agreement. E & O A Michael These names certainly help. I'll try and update the list on a daily basis, failing that it will be updated every other day. Not enough hours in the day when you work for yourself and are trying to study history. I will tread carefully with the successors. If a name is wrong and someone sees it they canlet me know via the source. Thanks Michael Aye James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 I think one needs a word of caution RIGHT NOW! Commanding officers are of two types in a fluid combat area: 'appointed by due process', and 'temporarily succeeded to the command due to seniority on the spot". The former will usually be Lt-Cols of the regiment, or Majors acting/ temporary Lt-Col. The latter could easily be captains, and fairly easily be not of the regiment. If the temps. are to be included, these might only be one-day wonders. Another offering: I think no source other than the battalion war diary should be accepted: change of command, unless of the type where the CO is on the thunderbox, will almost always be logged. Unit histories are not universally reliable sources. Before I offer 2nd RWF, need an answer to my initial point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Tucker Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 I have studied the 12 Warwicks' battalions on the Somme, including every war diary and a lot more. I cannot put together a comprehensive list. I can contribute the following however.... "Battalion commanders were not immune from the risks of battle. Innes of the 1/8 had been killed on the first day. Major Albert N. Henderson was commanding 10th Battalion (Colonel Heath had been wounded on July 3) when he was killed by a shell burst on July 24. Colonel Franklin of the 1/6th was severely wounded on the first day and was awarded the DSO for leading a bombing party after being wounded. Colonel Jimmy Knox of 1/7th was wounded on July 3 but was able to return on November 24. The war service of Colonel Harding of 15th Battalion was ended by appendicitis at the beginning of September. He had had a narrow escape on July 25 when his groom, Frederick Doyle, was killed by a shell five miles behind the lines in an incident which threw him off his own horse. Other commanders moved upwards or sideways. Colonel Sladen of the 1/5th was promoted to command 143 Brigade whilst Colonel Wethered of the 1/8th left in September to command the Reserve Army Rest Camp. Colonel Collison of the 11th battalion was forced to go back to England for rest and was never able to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piorun Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 Col. C.H. Marsh, DSO 7th Bn. Cameron Highlanders. Antony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geraint Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 1/4 RWF Denbighshire Lieut. Col W.C.W. Hawkes of 106th Hazara Pioneers, Indian army. (appointed 15th Feb 1916, returned to Indian Army 3 Feb 1917). 9 RWF Lt Col R. A. Berners (appointed 24 Dec 1915) 13thRWF Lt Col O S Flower ,DOW (casualty on 10 July 16) Lt Col Cambell DSO 14thRWF Lt Col David Davies, MP, recalled London 7 July 1916 Major G H Gwyther KIA 10 July 1916 Lt Col H V R Hodson 15th RWF Lt Col R.C. Bell, DSO 16th RWF Lt Col R.J. Carden kia 10 July Sec Com Major McLellan Lt Col ANG Jones DSO 13 July 17thRWF Lt Col J A Ballard kia 10 July 1916 Lt Col J B Cockburn DSO Lt Col Beasley DSO (appointed "early Nov" 1916) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel9 Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 6th Bn. Connaught Rangers Lt. Col. J.S.M. Lenox-Conyngham, 10/10/1914 to 03/09/1916 KIA. Replaced by Major Rowland Charles Feilding. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom A McCluskey Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 James, Here's a list of Commanding Officers of The Black Watch battalions, on the Somme, during the dates previously mentioned: 1/Black Watch: Lieut-Col J G H Hamilton until September 1916. Lieut-Col V M Fortune from the 16 Sep 1916. 4/5 Black Watch: Lieut-Col G A McL Sceales (Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders) 6/Black Watch: Lieut-Col A O Jenney (The Cameronians) until October 1916. Lieut-Col T M Booth (Gordon Highlanders) from 31 Oct 1916. 7/Black Watch: Lieut-Col H M Allen (wounded at High Wood 28 July 1916). Command passed to Lieut-Col G R H Cheape MC. 8/Black Watch: Lieut-Col C W E Gordon (Gordon Highlanders) until the 22 Sep 1916. Then, Lieut-Colonel Sir G Abercromby (Baronet) 9/Black Watch: Lieut-Col S A Innes. 12/Black Watch: Maj (T/Lieut-Col) Harrie Jennings Bramly psc. I hope this is of use. Aye, Tom McC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longboat Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 11th Royal West Kent's (Lewisham): Lieut-Col Arthur Fitzhenry Townshend, Died of Wounds 16/09/1916. Buried at Heilly Station Cemetery. Succeded by Major Arthur Cecil Corfe who took temporary command which was confirmed on the 20/2/1917 Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_Hartley Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 Entirely agree with Grumpy at post #11. If this is to be meaningful, we need to know the what's what. Or do I mean the why's why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeldr Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 Personally, I am in favour of the inclusion of what Grumpy calls "one-day wonders" When it counted, on the day, they did the job: if you do not mention them, then technically, the historical record is incomplete. My philosophy is to provide as much information one can, and then let the reader/enquirer/whoever decide which bits he/she needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geraint Posted 7 February , 2011 Share Posted 7 February , 2011 Note that I've included a 1 day and a 3 day second in command men in my earlier posting. Poor Gwyther was killed 3 days after the kia of his predecessor. Mc Lellan died on the same day as Carden. Technically 2 CO' s of the same battalion kia same day. Still counts though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Brown Posted 7 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2011 1st Royal Warwickshire Lieut Colonel G N B Forster 4th Grenadier Guards Major [Temp Lieut Colonel] Lord Henry Seymour, DSO Thanks Diane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Brown Posted 7 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2011 (edited) ......... RIGHT NOW! ............ 'appointed by due process', and 'temporarily succeeded to the command due to seniority on the spot". The former will usually be Lt-Cols of the regiment, or Majors acting/ temporary Lt-Col. The latter could easily be captains, and fairly easily be not of the regiment. If the temps. are to be included, these might only be one-day wonders........ .............I think no source other than the battalion war diary should be accepted: change of command, unless of the type where the CO is on the thunderbox, will almost always be logged. Unit histories are not universally reliable sources..... Totally take your point GRUMPY. I agree that the "one day wonders" as you describe them should be added to the list of Battalion CO's on the Somme 2nd July - 26th Nov 1916. "One day" or temporary appointment I think these men qualify for an addition to this humble list. On your point of War Diary's as the only source I disagree. If a forum member comes on here with a name that's already been researched by them from a reputable source ie Army List, Harts or John Buchan's History of the Royal Scots Fusiliers, Middlebrooks First Day or any of the other sources that appear at the bottom of this Post, then of course it should be included. Let the forum members decide if it's right or wrong and if proven wrong then it will be rectified. *AMANDED POST* In some OH am I right in saying they were compiled from war diaries and Op reports. There was a topic on these mistakes in this forum. Even the WD's and OP reprts can throw up some errors. But your right GRUMY and John I think we need to tread carefully when adding a subject to the list. Source should be described when submitting the CO. They can then be viewed by all the forum members who have an interest. If a conflicting source crops up it can be debated and a decision can be made wether to add him or not. Thank you James Anyway certainly hope you can make your addition to the list. If not then thats perfectly fine by me. Entirely agree with Grumpy at post #11. If this is to be meaningful, we need to know the what's what. Or do I mean the why's why? I've explained my thoughts on the matter above John. If people want to add a Bttn. CO, if it's sourced properly, Why not? Don't understand the second part of your question....."Or do I mean the why's why?" If you want to know why I'm putting the list together then PM or email me. *AMANDED POST* John I sent you a PM. Thank you James All said and done, reply if you want a Battalion CO added folks "temp command" or "officialy installed". Edited 8 February , 2011 by James Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Brown Posted 7 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2011 I have studied the 12 Warwicks' battalions on the Somme, including every war diary and a lot more. I cannot put together a comprehensive list. I can contribute the following however.... "Battalion commanders were not immune.......... Thanks Alan I can clearly understand why Grumpy mentioned the machinations of different CO's at certain times. Col. C.H. Marsh, DSO 7th Bn. Cameron Highlanders. Antony Thanks Antony I have added him to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Brown Posted 7 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2011 1/4 RWF Denbighshire .......... 6th Bn. Connaught Rangers........... Thanks geraint and archangel. Names have been gratefully recieved and added. Great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Brown Posted 7 February , 2011 Author Share Posted 7 February , 2011 ....... to provide as much information one can, and then let the reader/enquirer/whoever decide which bits he/she needs Totally agree Michael. I know there's no definitine list out there, and probably never will be a complete list. Thats why this topic was started, to try and make some sort of searchable list for forum members like me who wants to know who was in command at certain time's during the battle. I have taken note geraint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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