Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 What we do not seem to have on this Forum is a thread showing what decoration and campaign medal and LSGC, Coronation ribbons etc. actually look like on period photos. Any attempt to photograph genuine ribbons using modern film will not do the trick, as I understand it. The ones most likely to appear in the war on gallant breasts are, I suppose: QSA KSA perhaps the various African campaigns, the IGS, China, LSGC, Coronation 1902, 1914 star [the BWM and VM were issued after the war]. Perhaps some 1920s photos might also help. VC with and without the little bronze cross, DSO, MC, DCM, MM. Some of these are 'easy' to recognise, probably the best is the MM, and the SA war pair. I can contribute a few, please can others chip in? Later today I shall add Frank Richards DCM, MM and 1914 star photo, and, I hope, a decent China or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punjab612 Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Not the best image in the world, it's a scan of a photocopy. My grandfather with his MC & trio with 1914 clasp and oakleaf for MiD. Uniform is Officer in charge of Westbury Fire Brigade (voluntary). I still have the medals and the epaulettes. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Stewart Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Notice what appears below the medals?? - looks like a lions head boss with whistle and chain as worn by 'Rifle Volunteers' - surely not a regulation Fire Brigade accoutrement?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Lt Col Cockburn RWF after the war: something to get my teeth into later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Lt CS Owen RWF China Medal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Captain LL Evans RWF MC and ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2010 3 MCs [one very famous] all RWF, and a stuffed wotsit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Frank Richards, DCM MM 1914 star with clasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2010 for starters! Needed: a LS&GC various Africa campaigns. Indian General Service 4th issue. 1902 coronation [lots issued to ORs] Good ones of QSA KSA please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2010 an RQMS 1st RWF just before war: something, QSA KSA, something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2010 includes a QSA KSA but ...... Senior Officer 1st RWF immediately prewar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw63 Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Grumpy: "an RQMS 1st RWF just before war: something, QSA KSA, something " First something a DCM (colours look reversed in B/W photos) Last something looks like a QV LSGCM? Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2010 thanks I believe that would fit ..... cannot find his name at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw63 Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Grumpy, “Lt Col Cockburn RWF after the war: something to get my teeth into later” This one's got me intrigued! My guess: 1 = DSO 2= East & West Africa Medal 1887-1900 3 = QSA 4 = Africa General Service Medal 1902 5 = 14-15 Star 6 = BWM 7 = VM 8 = Legion d'honneur (France Do I win any prizes..?!? 2 & 4 are really tricky... No idea about the medal on his right. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27thBN Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Grumpy, “Lt Col Cockburn RWF after the war: something to get my teeth into later” This one's got me intrigued! My guess: 1 = DSO 2= East & West Africa Medal 1887-1900 3 = QSA 4 = Africa General Service Medal 1902 5 = 14-15 Star 6 = BWM 7 = VM 8 = Legion d'honneur (France Do I win any prizes..?!? 2 & 4 are really tricky... No idea about the medal on his right. Simon I would say a royal humane society medal MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punjab612 Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Another one this time my Gt Grandfather 1470 Pte Samuel Harvey 1st Bn Northumberland Fusiliers (1866-87) with LSGC & 2nd Afghan War Medal (no clasps). Again I have his medals. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2010 I would say a royal humane society medal MC Clever lot out there! John Brydges Cockburn. Munshi Expedition 1900 QSA 5 clasps. W Africa 1906 Sokoto rebels, medal Cameroons 1913/16 French Ld'H Silver medal Royal Humane Soc. DSO for Great War on Western Front. Quite a hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Upton Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Produced to illustrate something on another website - comparison between how the ribbons for the BWM and VM actually look, and how they often appear in period photos: http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Tsr2GdA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 12 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 12 February , 2010 thanks: a remarkable lesson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wainfleet Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Grumpy Do you know who the others with S.S. are? W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBettsMCDCM Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 An Unusual one a WW2 Special~from Guyhirn,with 1914~15 Star BWM Victory; AGS Clasp "Nigeria 1918" Special Constabulary & Defence Medal.[1/1st Camb Rgt] Sgt Pearman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 for starters! Needed: a LS&GC various Africa campaigns. Indian General Service 4th issue. 1902 coronation [lots issued to ORs] Good ones of QSA KSA please. David, This is Captain A. Hoare, 12/KRRC Killed in Action 20 Nov 1917: [facing p.327 1918 KRRC Chronicle] He's interesting here because he was commisioned from the ranks, so has quite an unusual medal combination. I'm not expert enough to identify each one confidently, so I'll give a summary of his service instead ... 1896 Enlisted as Rifleman into 2/KRRC 1900 MiD Battle of Wagon Hill, South African War 1909 Promoted CSgt 1913 Long Service & Good Conduct Medal 1914 (Aug) Promoted RSM 1914 BEF with 2/KRRC, Retreat from Mons, Battle of the Marne. Medaille Militaire. 1914 (Oct) Commissioned 2Lt KRRC (Btn unsure) 1915 (Aug) Lieutenant KRRC 1917 (Jan) Captain while with 4/KRRC in Salonika 1917 Repatriated after an accident, joining 12/KRRC on recovery 1917 (20 Nov) KiA at Cambrai As an aside, when he was KiA, his Orderly, Rfn Albert SHEPHERD, took over command of the Company, rallied the men, then calmly walked back under heavy fire to summon support from a nearby tank. He'd already single-handedly stormed a machine gun earlier in the day. For all this he was awarded the VC. Returning to Capt Hoare, that service would point to ... QSA possibly KSA - but no sign of the ribbon in the picture slim possibility 1902 Coronation Medal MiD oak leaf on the QSA/KSA possibly 1911 Coronation Medal LSGC Medaille Militaire 1914 Star & Clasp (picture probably predates start? of issue in Nov 1917) BWM and VM (KiA before issue so cannot be in this picture) So I'm guessing we have in the picture (L-R) Medaille Militaire ??? LSGC - the white stripes seem clear QSA + oak leaf The colour bands in the Medaille Militaire (if it is that) and the QSA seem to almost disappear. What do you think? Incidentally this is a plate from the KRRC Chronicle not an RP postcard, so the photographic process issues may be different ?? I'll have to put the zoom-in of the ribbons in a separate Post as I've burst my attachment allowance for this one with the main picture. Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBrockway Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 Here's a zoom-in of Capt Hoare's ribbons from the post higher up: Cheers, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malch Posted 12 February , 2010 Share Posted 12 February , 2010 BSM Herbert A.F. Hole. Trio & LS&GCM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 13 February , 2010 Author Share Posted 13 February , 2010 Grumpy Do you know who the others with S.S. are? W. Yes! l to r; RCJ Greaves, EW Coster, SS, TR Conning. un-named sheepy-thingy with wooden legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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