alliekiwi Posted 29 November , 2008 Share Posted 29 November , 2008 Sorry this is as big as I can get the picture without it going all blurry. If it's a plain old serjeant, what is the thing above the stripes and why is it there? Allie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hastings Posted 29 November , 2008 Share Posted 29 November , 2008 Sorry this is as big as I can get the picture without it going all blurry. If it's a plain old serjeant, what is the thing above the stripes and why is it there? Allie Hi Allie It looks like the "gun" that Royal Artillery Sergeants wore (and still do on Dress Uniform) above their stripes - so RFA, RHA or RGA Sgt. Maybe someone else can confirm Hope this helps Regards Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 30 November , 2008 Share Posted 30 November , 2008 Hi Allie It looks like the "gun" that Royal Artillery Sergeants wore (and still do on Dress Uniform) above their stripes - so RFA, RHA or RGA Sgt. Maybe someone else can confirm Hope this helps Regards Jim Yes, it is the gun of a RA sergeant. In the same way a RE sergeant had a grenade above his stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alliekiwi Posted 30 November , 2008 Author Share Posted 30 November , 2008 Thank you to you both. I learn something every day. Allie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 1 December , 2008 Share Posted 1 December , 2008 Not only RA sergeants: all senior NCOs and WOs wear it somewhere [not necessarily on their pyjamas] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsyeoman Posted 1 December , 2008 Share Posted 1 December , 2008 And never call it a 'Gun' with members former (like me) and current of the Royal Regiment about.. It's a "piece" (as in "piece of artillery". Bit like calling a battleship a 'boat' (yes, I know submarines are called 'boats'!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmaasz Posted 1 December , 2008 Share Posted 1 December , 2008 Grumpy: Do you mean pyjamas as in pyjamas or pyjamas as in what our Squadron OC calls her camouflage battledress uniform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 1 December , 2008 Share Posted 1 December , 2008 And never call it a 'Gun' with members former (like me) and current of the Royal Regiment about.. It's a "piece" (as in "piece of artillery". Bit like calling a battleship a 'boat' (yes, I know submarines are called 'boats'!). Sorry, but wrong, I am afraid, for the period. The Clothing Regs, the Priced Vocab of Clothing, The Royal Army Clothing Department and just about everything else applying to the badge calls it a gun [and, where a badge has two thingies crossed, they are called guns]. And we all know the gunners are called 'Piecers' do we not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hastings Posted 1 December , 2008 Share Posted 1 December , 2008 Sorry, but wrong, I am afraid, for the period. The Clothing Regs, the Priced Vocab of Clothing, The Royal Army Clothing Department and just about everything else applying to the badge calls it a gun [and, where a badge has two thingies crossed, they are called guns]. And we all know the gunners are called 'Piecers' do we not! I too was a Gunner and we always called them the "Gun" - we never had Colours called "The Pieces" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 1 December , 2008 Share Posted 1 December , 2008 I too was a Gunner and we always called them the "Gun" - we never had Colours called "The Pieces" Herewith "the Gun". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 1 December , 2008 Share Posted 1 December , 2008 one of a mirror image pair, called 'right gun' and 'left gun' in Vocab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alliekiwi Posted 2 December , 2008 Author Share Posted 2 December , 2008 Thank you very much, chaps. I feel slightly more educated about pictorial representations of things that go 'bang', now. So he was a serjeant in either the RFA or RGA. And he was named Smith. Yup, I can really see the correct MIC's going to be easy to find... Allie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droocoo Posted 2 December , 2008 Share Posted 2 December , 2008 looks almost like a staff serjeant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FROGSMILE Posted 2 December , 2008 Share Posted 2 December , 2008 looks almost like a staff serjeant Did you actually read the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlbuchanan Posted 18 December , 2008 Share Posted 18 December , 2008 Hi Alli,seems like there is a common thread here. I have just seen your photo. of the artillery/sergeant stripe on the web. It would appear to be British piece, however my maternal Grandfather served in the Australian Army in Artillery and I have a photo of him as a Sergeant with the Australian version piece as depicted in the photo. I have his spurs, bandolier,leggings, several version of Sergeant stripes and I.D bracelet. The reason of why this is fascinating was that his sister served as a Nurse- why I was interested in the Book- The Other ANZACS. If you can access the Australian War Memorial web site the names of the people are: Daniel Joseph Duggan-Meritorious Service Medal and Mary-known as May Duggan. My mother told me that there was sibling rivalry as May had the 1914-25 Star and her brother didn't and he was jealous of her on ANZAC Day. I guess the fact that she joined up before him didn't click with him. Cheers:David Buchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy46 Posted 23 December , 2008 Share Posted 23 December , 2008 Me thinks Staffsyeoman may be taking the piece, when referring to the GUN above the sergeants stripes as the Piece. As pointed out earlier, "The Royal Regiment of Artillery" salute the Guns, their colours. I am of course assuming that we are referring to the British Army and not our American brothers. Although i suspect that you may very well get the same answer from them Grumpy, Sgts wear the Gun above the stripes. Staff Sgts have a Gun and a crown above the stripes. The crossed Guns to which you refer are the insignia of a WO2 SMIG(Sgt Major instructor Gunnery) and are worn on the right forearm Tom. Uqfegd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philsr Posted 24 December , 2008 Share Posted 24 December , 2008 When I was first finding my way around a Lee Enfield it was drummed into me that it was called a 'rifle' not a 'gun' because, quote, 'Guns have wheels'. Philsr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muerrisch Posted 24 December , 2008 Share Posted 24 December , 2008 Grumpy, Sgts wear the Gun above the stripes. Staff Sgts have a Gun and a crown above the stripes. The crossed Guns to which you refer are the insignia of a WO2 SMIG(Sgt Major instructor Gunnery) and are worn on the right forearm Tom. Uqfegd! SMIG with crown above of course. In our period, the crossed guns on their own signified every man, any rank, prize battery or company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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